so over the course of three days he had a trial which doesn't seem to have bothered him much.
he got whipped ok that would have been agony and then put on a torture stake/ cross/ whatever yes that would have been hell.
but he was on it for a day and the whole thing lasted for three days.
I have a book The Passion (Photography from the Movie The Passion of the Christ) on page 69 it has a photograph of a beaten and bloodied man and quotes Isaiah 52:14. 'Many were amazed when they saw him-beaten and bloodied, so disfigured one would scarcely know he was a person'
I had never thought of it being so bad until I saw that.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
but they stand firm on 1914
I can't see how they could change this although the last elder I spoke to disagreed with me. As witnesses and proclaiming this good news as a witness I think it would be a false witness they have proclaimed if they if they change it. When you look up the word 'witness' in the Insight book it says see legal case and under legal case it cites De 19:17-21 and as it was a also a judgement message.
When we were raised as witnesses I think the generation teaching was not tied just to the anointed but was associated with the World has ended-Millions now living will never die that was preached when the anointed were commissioned in 1919 and as is pointed out in the Babylon has fallen book in 1963 there was over a million of the great crowd/other sheep so it could be true, then. However now it cannot at least that is what I think.
wt writers ( klein) admitted at one time, that his majesty's doctrinal ship was zigzagging to find the right course, and many of us believed, that if we accepted the bible as true, cleaning up the teachings would establish the right bearing.
so: did you have a hobby-horse idea you were riding?
writing to brooklyn perhaps?
who cares?.
the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.
my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.
its funny ive read some stories on here about how they have become so infuriated by what logic dictates as being true and their own denying of it because it completely screws up their belief and shows how hypocritical it is xd some look like a nuclear reactor about to blow xd.
share you experiences here :) .
I've talked to quite a few over the years about different things and the reason I left. Half of them were elders and the others either knocked at my door or asked me questions.
I have found it best to limit the scope of the conversation to just one point. Some have been irritated. One, an elder had been quite friendly but that ended after we discussed the trinity.
The last person I discussed being a witness and being convinced of it. Didn't seem that they were.
i think that's the correct phrase?
anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.
now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.
i wonder what it would be like, without any religion in the world?
i don't think it would be like 'imagine' by lennon.. i don't believe it will ever happen.
even if it did, people are the same.
share your thoughts ?
i know i have mentioned this on other posts.
as a born-in, i was obsessed with the watchtower.
it was god's organization.
however, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed.
9 as we have said above, i also now say again, whoever it is that is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be accursed.. guess what?
wtbts is accursed.. they go beyond.
"Millions now living will never die
I think it was the, World has ended-millions now living will never die.
What an interesting good news
