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  Was Ray Franz Playing The Long Game?

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.

  letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.

  reports are quoted vebatim.

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  Ucantnome

  i remember when i read his books feeling this almost euphoria and sadness at the same time. what took him so long he was on the governing body.
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  What did you regrettably not do because you were a Jehovah's Witness ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovah's witnesses cannot do a lot of things.

  i remember pioneers having to quit their jobs because they could not work in a convenience store and sell cigarettes.

  i know of a young man who was offered a scholarship to any college or university if he wanted to go to because of his football abilities.

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  I sometimes feel that I have regrets about things i could have done with regard to girlfriends but who knows how that would have turned out. One brother who was going to art school encouraged me to go but I thought it would mean missing meetings and the end was so close. (1970's) Who knows how my life would have turned out if I did, so I don't know that I regret not going.

  One thing I do regret is not taking out a personal pension when I was advised to by my personal banker who spent time trying to convince me. The only reason that I didn't was that I had faith the Great Tribulation /Armageddon would come within the time of the generation of 1914 (1980's) I discussed this with my parents. It means I will have to do work into into my 70's.
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  If you actually BELIEVE the Bible- you will never go to church.

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't- enjoy the entertainment!.

  maybe they'll have a rock band!.

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  Ucantnome

  If you actually BELIEVE the Bible- you will never go to church.

  i don't think that is true. maybe some some go to church to partake of the Eucharist.
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  King of the South and that stuff

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i see that the uk prime monster t may is going to see the pressy of the usa whos name means 'fart' here in brit land.

  i have my own views on those people, in fact authority in general.

  but i ramble as we old people tend to do.. i wonder how long before jobos are saying; 'ooooh, look.

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  Ucantnome

  I think the Syrian king Seleucus was the original king of the north
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  If the Org. confessed they were not God's org. Would you still be there and was that the main reason you stayed

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know you know who i am by now...the one that forgets to use paragraphs...anyway, all over all the jw sites (not jw.org).

  it's been asked if you knew this or that why did you stay...it's been discussed how no matter what you hit the friends with, failed dated, new lights, pedophiles, etc, yet they stay and you can't reason with them....so what i've come up with is that most stay because they feel it's god's org.

  and they were chosen in place of the jews.

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  Ucantnome

  I recently said to someone that I feel it was inevitable that although I was raised a JW that I would ultimately leave.

  Although I felt I had and have a love for God I never liked the organisation, going to the meetings, the assemblies, the idea of being a servant or elder, answering at meetings, the idea of bethel service or pioneering, etc. I felt I didn't understand a lot of the deeper things, I didn't enjoy bible reading reading or studying, I didn't like some bible characters, I felt I liked Peter most didn't like Paul. (I enjoy reading Paul's writings now)

  My actions I think showed it was inevitable. I did pioneer but I never would have done it without the encouragement of my relatives. I wasn't good at it, some still laugh about it. When I was old enough I didn't attend the summer assemblies, I slipped into the meetings as they started and slipped out as they ended. As an adult I never even carried the roving microphone although asked (sometimes they are willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel if it's a necessity). I was seldom on the school and didn't own a suit.

  However I stayed as believed it was God's organisation and so if they said they weren't I would have left sooner.
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  I am a Living Time Machine

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

  everywhere you found telephone booths!

  a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

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  time is weird
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  If "the Truth" is the truth, why are witnesses so scared of research?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is an often asked question i know, but it perplexes me.. if witnesses are so convinced that they have "the truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo?

  didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the boreans for researching things they were told??.

  seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only enhance such 'facts'?.

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  i think its a different sort of truth
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  When The Persecution Comes

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i was young everybody used to fantasise constantly about how brave we would all need to be "when the persecution comes".

  we worried about what "they" would do to us and how we would never talk or betray other jws.

  psychologically it was a damaging environment for children; but maybe that's another topic.. who would have thought that when it finally came it would take the form of being sued for protecting pedophiles.

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  I always thought as a kid they would cut something off me and I couldn't tell a lie so I would tell them where the brothers were
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  Can you live with your self?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think if we are to fully delight in life we must live without detachment.

  because when we become attached to a beliief we feel a desire that we are right.

  the problem with being right, even if we are right is that our beliefs then try to attach themselfs to virgin snow, and change people to our thinking.

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  Ucantnome

  I lived on my own for a while. I had some rooms in an otherwise empty house. No phone and fairly isolated.
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  OK who threw the stink bomb in here?

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  come on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.

  this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.

  😅😅😅.

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  Ucantnome

  "Regarding the 1975 thread my stance is that while many were expecting it, it was never said to be a definite thing or was it said that Jehovah told them it would be that year."

  
  A Believer I understood that they were commissioned to speak as a prophet in the name of Jehovah as a modern-day Ezekiel, 'commissioned to serve as the mouthpiece and active agent of Jehovah' ( The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah-How, Watchtower 1971 pg.58,59,61,62)

  So I understood that what they said came from Jehovah as they were commissioned in 1919 as the mouthpiece.

  So when they said in 1974 that the evening of the seventh creative day began in 4026 BCE and the halfway point of the seventh creative day 3500 years later was 526 BCE and that Armageddon would precede the last thousand years of the 7th creative day Christ's reign when the devil will be abyssed. (God's Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing For Man's Good, Watchtower 1974 pg.51,131,132,186,189) I understood that I was listening to a prophet speaking in the name of Jehovah, his mouthpiece and I acted upon what I heard.

  If you do the math I believe for this to be correct the only time that Armageddon could occur would be between the release of the book in the summer of 1974 and the autumn of 1975.

  This book was offered in the field service, studied at the group study and some talks given on a Sunday were based upon it I believe and so I ate the spiritual food. This was some years after the 1968 publication where it mentioned 1975 and was the most up to date spiritual food. Now the dates look a bit off?