Posts by Ucantnome

i knew many elders and servants over the years being counseled because they rarely answered.. funny thing....my mom who is 88 cries if she doesn't give a comment.

hated it and i rarely commented. Once an elder called on me to try and make me comment i just ignored him. A girlfriend said i should always comment and even if i only raised my hand and said ' Jehovah is God' i should, irrespective of the question

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There Goes Jim Garner

by Iown Mylife in

one friend of mine who has also passed, just loved rockford files.

feeling saddened today reading about james garner passing on.

goodbye jim - you sexy hunk!

Ucantnome

loved Rockford files.

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If there was a pill that could open their eyes - would you give it to them?

by truthseeker in

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if there was a pill you could give to your jw family members that would awaken their eyes to the truth about the cult, would you give it to them?.

most would probably say yes.. but what about those who are completely institutionalized, the elderly, the super zealous, the geeky kids who have no friends, the misfits?.

some people need "boundaries", they need someone to lead and give them directions, they need a sense of belonging, even in an organization that has no social programs.

Ucantnome

Mikado,

what good would it do to tell them their whole lives have been a lie and a con?

this is only a what if there was a pill thread, however they maybe able to help others not to do the same as them which would be a kindness.

in my life there were things that i did not do and things that i did do and things that i would have done if the situation arose based on my religion.

we have commented we feel somewhat lucky that we had children and didn't wait untill after Armageddon. when i left, although the blood issue had come up a couple of times, i'm glad it hadn't been worse or that an organ had been needed. i didn't pursue a career in something i was good at and liked and various things in courting and marriage would have been different. many times it was the older ones who were an influence in how i veiwed things. i still have a christian hope but i feel free to use my conscience more.

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If there was a pill that could open their eyes - would you give it to them?

by truthseeker in

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if there was a pill you could give to your jw family members that would awaken their eyes to the truth about the cult, would you give it to them?.

most would probably say yes.. but what about those who are completely institutionalized, the elderly, the super zealous, the geeky kids who have no friends, the misfits?.

some people need "boundaries", they need someone to lead and give them directions, they need a sense of belonging, even in an organization that has no social programs.

Ucantnome

Today i think probably if it was my parents I would administer the pill like I do the dog's pill. Friends probably not. No need for a pill for the kids.

I think it would help my parents to have a closer relationship with their offspring which i'm sure they would want.

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GB guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes. How can JW's believe this stuff?

by integ in

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the gb is guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes.

blasphemy against god by claiming they "speak for jehovah".

they said it again recently in an article..that they speak the words of jehovah and we should listen to those words.

Ucantnome

i'm always glad they never asked me to b on the GB. (I think i was marked at one time)

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Did You Ever Get Screwed By A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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witnesses are supposed to be the "most honest people in the world".

most jws i know of do not put business deals in writing.

they simply "trust their brother".

Ucantnome

yes and no. depending on how you look at it. considering the end was so close.

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Chart showing Governing Body Members and Committees as of October, 1999

by truthseeker in

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i have had this document for some time.

i think it was either given out at pioneer school or at one of the pioneer meetings with the circuit overseer.. .

how things have changed in 15 years.

Ucantnome

i don't think they had pioneer school when i pioneered. thankfully.

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"100 years of kingdom rule" so what?? what does it mean??

by stuckinarut2 in

i cant stop the nagging thoughts in relation to the hype about "100 years of kingdom rule" !.

what is the significance?

why make such a big deal about something like that?.

Ucantnome

When my parents became witnesses almost 50 years into the kingdom rule I believe they would have been part of the 'over a million persons' mentioned in the Watchtower 1966 page 40 who felt they had 'enabled to "see" the sign of the Son of man' by means of the composite sign.

The title of the article is The Sign Of the Son of Man and on page 37 under the subheading The Most Vital Sign it quotes Matt.24:30. On the following page page 38 it says.

What is shown to be taking place here that Jesus could refer to as "the sign of the Son of man"? It is the act of God's Son in recieving authority from his Sovereign Father to rule in an everlasting kingdom. This event brought the establishment or "birth" of his kingly rule. (I think this scripture is now believed to have a future fulfilment)

The article has the next subheading ' How The Sign is Seen' and quotes from the Greek-English Lexicon by Liddle and Scott.

'Concerning the Greek word for "see" used at Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 1:7, their lexicon (Volume 2, page 1245a) lists this as one of the meanings: "Metaphorically,... of mental sight, to discern, perceive," Yes, the Bible speaks not only of seeing with our eyes but also of seeing with our mind and with our heart.' (page 38)

Later on page it mentions the visible sign that follows on 'after and results fom the invisible "sign of he son of man"'

So I think my parents saw this mentally and with their heart.

Having come to be a Witness they then were from my understanding in the spiritual paradise. They had come to the mountain of Jehovah. In the publication Man's Salvation Out of World Distress At Hand! (WTB&TS 1975) on page 183

'The personality of the Messianic King affects the personalities of his subjects in the spiritual paradise in an excellent, upbuilding way. The prophecy of Isaiah points in that direction.'

It then quotes Isaiah 11:6-8 and on page 185 it says

In harmony with that intention, such a transformation as is foretold by the prophecy regarding the animal world has actually taken place in the spiritual paradise of Jehovah's restored worshipers.

Now my parents are at the end of their lives and i think that Gods kingdom was in their hearts.

The Watchtower 2008 1/1 p13 (Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY Our Readers Ask Is God's Kingdom in your Heart?)

Many today believe that the answer to the above question is yes. For example, TheCatholic Encyclopedia asserts: “The kingdom of God means . . . the ruling of God in our hearts.” The clergy commonly teach this idea. Does the Bible really teach that God’s Kingdom resides in human hearts?

If i understand correctly what the this is saying I would say it was probably true of my parents. There was no literal government that brought 'dramatic changes on the earth' in their lifetime as they had hoped for.