Ucantnome

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  How do you feel when you see the Witnesses in the door to door work? Angry, Sad, or dumbfounded?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  im here sitting and listening to youtube video songs and practicing on my guitar and checking out posts on jwn.

  and one more thing, im seeing the spanish jws going door to door in my street.

  they work my street every single week.

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  Ucantnome

  Surprised
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  Are You "Technically" Still A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  even if you don't regard yourself as a practicing jw, some may view you simply as inactive, a lost sheep, etc.. if you were baptized but not disfellowshipped or disassociated, you may still be a jw---right?

  your thoughts please..

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  Ucantnome

  I don't believe I am a witness because I don't join in the preaching the work.
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  How old were you? What was the happiest year of your life?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what year comes to your mind as the happiest?

  maybe some special place you lived, being with special people, an unforgettable period that made it your happiest.

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  Ucantnome

  I don't have happy years.

  but the best year was 1975/6 I was late teens. Almost fell in love. Pioneered end was close. Hot summer 76 no pioneering no work lot of pub time and laying in the park.
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  Was it worth it?

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of you who left family and friends and had to start over from scratch just to get out of the organization, was it worth it?.

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  Ucantnome

  Funny I just was just discussing this with the wife.

  raised as witnesses. Few friends. Sacrifices. Etc. Then left as adults gave up the friends we had. Didn't have to.

  but in a way I did, have to. To be honest.
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  Doing away with Calculating How Close we are to THE END

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower study edition, august 2015, "keep in expectation!

  " article:.

  paragraph 3: "after looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?

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  Ucantnome

  Paragraph 3: "After looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, ‘Do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?

  Back in the early 70's an old sister wrote a letter to my parents regarding 1975. She was a sister that done a lot of personal study and cut articles out of the newspaper and gave interesting answers at the book study. At least that's what my parents thought.

  In the letter she explained that she had been talking to one or two at the circuit assembly and had now come to the conclusion that Armageddon would not be coming by 1975 or in her lifetime and she felt how difficult it was going to be for the young people who attended the kingdom hall in the many years to come.

  My parents were dismayed by the letter and thought she was going out of the 'truth' and she was quite old.

  Years later when I had stopped attending the meetings and going in field service I had a lively discussion with my father on the topic of the 'end' and being in expectation of it. He had not been raised in the 'truth' he had been baptised after he had a good job, married had a house and two kids. That wasn't how I had been raised.

  I left the witnesses regarding the view of Christ's 2nd presence. Although I at first had no intention of leaving, gradually as my thoughts changed so did my life. For an example. Because I now became like the old sister who I mentioned at the beginning of my post and felt that the great tribulation may not come in my life time. I felt a need to try and alter own financial/ work situation. This put greater strain on attending meetings. Especially when you feel a lot don't like your viewpoint. I also had to consider the children would I allow them to go into assembly at school attend birthday parties etc. Well we soon found we were fairly isolated in the congregation as far as social activities were concerned and due to my now no longer feeling I could participate in the field ministry with my view of the 2nd presence it would be hypocritical to expect my children to support the view. They needed association and if they weren't finding it in the congregation they needed to find it else where. And so eventually we found we were really out. Mostly due to raising the children.

  To keep in expectation of the 'end' I tried to explain to my father presented difficulties. If you have faith that it will come soon then you act accordingly. If you feel that due to experience and your understanding that it may not happen in your life time your expectation may still be there but you will have to act differently if in line with your faith or else it would be hypocrisy.

  My two cents worth
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  Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

  by FusionTheism in

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  i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

  i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

  also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

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  If you condemn the Society for NOT changing, but then you also condemn them when they DO change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the Society to ever want to change for the better?

  I don't think that I have condemned the Society for changing or not changing.

  I think the videos and shorter meetings are good. Wish we had them when I was a child. However that isn't the reason I left.

  I also think the Witnesses are basically the same I don't really see anything that alters them theologically.
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  Ucantnome

  There was a Watchtower that altered the understanding I had of a scripture. After a while and discussions with several people and elders I came to the conclusion that my support of the preaching work could not continue unless I felt convinced of the things preached. After more research and final discussion with elders it came to the point that it wasn't of any value attending the hall. I tried a couple of times with a slightly different viewpoint and as new light emerged and with further discussions with an elder to attend the hall again, but it proved to be short lived.
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  Are You a 607 BCE Specialist?

  by God_Delusion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys & gals,.

  we're currently preparing for the season finale of the show (to be recorded on sunday, may 24th at 2pm eastern time nyc / 6pm uk time / 4am sydney time.. as we're going to (finally) be covering 607 bce in detail, we're looking for a specialist (or two) that can come on the show and tell everyone about this almighty doctrine.

  if you know your 587 from your 607 and why the 1914 and 1919 dates are important to jws (although most have no idea why), please send us an email to [email protected], using "i'm a 607er" in the subject line and let us know why we should pick you as a guest on the season finale.. can't wait to hear from you!.

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  Ucantnome

  Are You a 607 BCE Specialist?

  no
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  Ucantnome

  How would you respond to your family?

  Forgive and forget.
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  Are J.W.'s as Gullible as the Org's Writings Imply?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the latest watchtower certainly indicates that the org thinks they are!!

  why keep in expectation?

  watchtower august 15 par.

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  Ucantnome

  Matthew 24:44 - "On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it."

  Since Jesus said that Christians would not know, this means that anyone claiming to know, cannot be a Christian!

  When my parents became Jehovah's Witnesses the belief was, and when I was a child, that the tribulation had started in 1914 and been cut short. At least I think that's what it was.

  I don't think my father was the gullible sort. I also think that maybe their view of this scripture related to being in the presence already.