Ucantnome
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Ucantnome
I haven't joined a new church and I wouldn't say I have new beliefs -
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The Kingdom Hall
by TheLiberator ini know i have mentioned this on other posts.
as a born-in, i was obsessed with the watchtower.
it was god's organization.
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Ucantnome
I'm still scared of the dark. Yeah the hall always felt a safe place. I could still go there now it wouldn't be any different from all the years I attended. Most would ignore me like normal. -
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Galations 1:8, 9 and Nu-LiteĀ®
by kairos inhowever, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed.
9 as we have said above, i also now say again, whoever it is that is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be accursed.. guess what?
wtbts is accursed.. they go beyond.
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Ucantnome
"Millions now living will never die
I think it was the, World has ended-millions now living will never die.
What an interesting good news
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What Are the Top JW Issues That Just Burn Your Buns the Most?
by Wild_Thing inwhich ones make you the maddest?
covering up of abuse, shunning, failed end of world predictions?.
my list is long and heavy, but the top 3 that set me off the most are:.
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Ucantnome
watching the Australian Royal commission made me cross.
i suppose i'd say the good news.
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Any here who didn't rebel as a teenager and were a goody two shoes instead?
by purrpurr inwhen i was a teenager in the borg i was a dyed in the wool, goody two shoes, squeaky clean,"spiritual " sister.
alot of my peers around me were rebelling and going off the rails but not me.
i was constantly praised for this and even felt a little smug about it ha!.
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Ucantnome
I think it depends how you define 'rebel as a teenager'.
My father commented before he passed away that we had been good kids and hadn't caused them any worry. I could never bring myself to commit fornication or adultery. I always turned it down. Drunkenness and needing dental work was accidental it wasn't rebellion. I rebelled against my father with the music that I listened to. He didn't think we should listen to any music produced by people with long hair, which ruled out the Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Yes, Pink Floyd,Genesis, Alice Cooper, ELP, Queen, Humble Pie, etc. that I had and he didn't know about, but the neighbours did when he was out. I did rebel in my attitude toward the truth in some ways although I pioneered. I wouldn't say I was a goody two shoes and felt I probably wouldn't survive Armageddon. However I always and still do think I done my best.
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Things I Never Knew When I Was A Witness!
by disillusioned 2 inthere are some things that as a witness i never knew.
maybe i was just going through the motions, attending meetings and not listening much.
never was very good at personal study or underlining answers in watchtower or book study (i never ever answered up) was too shy.. i never knew when i was a witness that they taught that jesus had looked down on the earth in 1919 to see who was serving god most accurately, and of course he chose a small group of bible students living in america!
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Ucantnome
I was raised as a witness and my parents were zealous witnesses. As a very young child I found going to the meetings, which were longer than they are today I believe, family study, field service and long assemblies completely bored me. I witnessed at school and was spoken well of by the teachers and later the same was true when I was an adult. But the boredom remained and the thought of an assembly or meeting was, oh God I've got that to do.
However I can't think of something that I didn't know of before I left. Some things may have come out after I left.
We had the book Jehovah's Witnesses In The Divine Purpose, I knew of the house in California and things like that. About a year before I left a brother showed me something in the Watchtower that bothered him it didn't bother me. Nothing would have made me question the society or the anointed.
1919 was the reason that these things didn't matter and it wasn't until I read something in the Watchtower that made me question the teaching regarding 1914 and subsequently 1919 that ultimately made me leave.
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"It's the demons..."
by pale.emperor inone thing that really frustrates me inside is how quite a few jw's (especially my family) actually believe that demons like to inhabit second hand vases, or clothes etc.
my sister and mother are so bad with this that they wont even talk about it - because even talking about it "brings demons into your home".
so any attempt to show them that it's unscriptural is shut off with, sometimes them literally going "lalalalalalala im not listening".. i used to believe it myself (why wouldn't i?, i was told by my mother and father it was fact).. what i'd like to point out to anyone that would let me debunk it is this:.
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Ucantnome
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Whats the one thing
by MrTheocratic injw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth.
they always point to matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today?
this proves we have the truth and gods backing".. for those of us in this community looking from the other side what is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have gods backing?
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Ucantnome
For those of us in this community looking from the other side What is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have Gods backing?
I think that there are a lot of reasons to question the claim of them having God's backing.
At the time of my dedication and baptism we studied at one of the meetings the book "The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah"-How? (Watchtower 1971)
My understanding from this book was that the anointed JW were the modern day Ezekiel commissioned in 1919 to do the work in fulfilment of Matthew 24:14. Appointed as a watchman class to Christendom as Ezekiel had been to the house of Israel.
I learnt that Ezekiel acted out the exact number of days until the destruction of Jerusalem and this had relevance to Christendom.
On page 216 it states
'Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom'
As far as I am aware this hasn't occurred.
When Ezekiel received the report that Jerusalem,..has been struck down he was vindicated as the watchman and proclaimer of the prophecies.
On page 286 it says,
'...the authentic news comes from all around the earth that the antitypical Jerusalem, Christendom, has fallen at the hands of Jehovah's executional forces! This will be a vindication of the modern-day Ezekiel class, to authenticate that they have not been a false prophet but have been a faithful "watchman" class in sounding out Jehovah's Warnings to Christendom.'
Watchtower April 1,1972 page 200
'Jehovah would confirm him as a prophet then by causing what Ezekiel prophesied to come true.'
As there was no confirmation that I can see for the modern day Ezekiel class I would say that this would/may be the 'one thing' for me
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NOW it's Important
by TheLiberator ini have spent 45 years of my life sacrificing my soul to the watchtower.
twenty-five of those years as a ms/elder.
i gave every moment to them.
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Ucantnome
I have spent 45 years of my life sacrificing my soul to the Watchtower. Twenty-five of those years as a MS/Elder. I gave every moment to them. Even if no one was going to show up for service on New Year's day, I was there to take the lead.
My wife and I went out many Saturday mornings on our own after meeting for field service with the group and no one was going out. I've gone in service on many Christmas and New year's days along with many evenings.
I never reached out for a position as an servant or elder. I did pioneer from school.
I have found that those who seemed to be the weaker ones when I was young and were pursuing more schooling better jobs fast cars or being reproved for immorality are still in and some serving as elders today.
I'm glad I am where I am.
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Would you be a GB member if you were asked ?
by atomant inoff course you need to think back to when you were a jw to answer this question honestly and properly.but hypothetically if you had the spirituality and knowledge and was approached to be appointed as a gb member would you have taken on the position?and if you did what changes would you recommend ?.
j.
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Ucantnome
no. i wouldn't carry the microphone when i was a witness.