Posts by Ucantnome

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Your Top Ten Favourite Movies?

by LoveUniHateExams in

just thought i'd start a thread about favourite movies.

mine, in no particular order, are .... alien - a great visual film.

the chest-bursting scene is still great to watch, no matter how many times i've seen the movie.

Ucantnome

Bridges of Madison County, Gladiator, High Plains Drifter, Terminator, Aliens, Always, Predator, Field of Dreams, Toy Story, Hustle, Cocoon

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What did NOT get you out?

by problemaddict 2 in

i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.

in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.

i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.

Ucantnome

Ucant - Do you mind if I ask what that 1 thing was?

The one thing for me related to two Watchtowers, Jan 15th, 1966 and the Feb 15th, 1994 and the scripture Matthew 24:30 and my reading Matthew 24 as a child.

I was no longer convinced of the message that we were joining the anointed remnant in preaching and as I understood the preaching to be part of the sign of his presence I no longer could be sure of them being the anointed remnant chosen to do this work. If I had remained convinced they were, then all other things seemed insignificant.

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Is 1975 explicitly written in old publications ?

by SlappySlap in

i've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.. do somebody have references ?.

Ucantnome

I've been hearing about 1975 for decades but i've never found a publication where this date is explicitly written.

When I Googled 'explicitly' it had this.

in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.
"the essay should state explicitly how the facts support the thesis"

My view is this, the way I understood it at the time, 1974. When I started regular pioneering. Creative days were 7,000 years long including the 7th. The 7th began in 4026 BCE.

"The first half or 'evening' period of God's seventh creative 'day' was now closing, 3,500 years from the creation of Adam and Eve. The morning of this creative 'day' was due to begin at 526 B.C.E." (God's Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing for Man's Good 1974 WTB&TS, page 131)
Page 51 of the same book there is a subheading "Evening of the Seventh Creative Day begins 4026 B.C.E."

Also, I understood that Armageddon would be over finished before the thousand year reign of Christ began.

Page 186 same book,

"By removing the Serpent and his demons from the neighborhood of the earth and hurling them into the abyss and sealing them up there, bound as with chains for the next thousand years. Revelation 20:1-3 pictures this, not as a part of the war at Har-magedon, but as a follow up of that war."

We also offered this publication in our ministry, as is mentioned in the feature of the Kingdom Ministry October 1974, Presenting The Good News.

So in 1974 studying the new publication and offering it in field service the conclusion I came to is that Armageddon would be over by the autumn of 1975

In the August 15, 1968, Watchtower in the article, Why are you looking forward to 1975? It shows the math and the year zero

page 499
Well, for one thing, if 4026 is added to 1968 (allowing for the lack of a zero year between C.E. and B.C.E ) one gets a total of 5,993 years, come this autumn from Adam's creation. That means that, in the fall of the year 1975, a little over seven years from now..., it will be 6,000 years since the creation of Adam,

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What did NOT get you out?

by problemaddict 2 in

i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.

in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.

i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.

Ucantnome

Ucant - Do you mind if I ask what that 1 thing was?

sorry the answer vanished when I posted it

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What did NOT get you out?

by problemaddict 2 in

i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.

in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.

i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.

Ucantnome

there is really only one thing that made me leave and the reason I stay out. All the rest made/makes no difference.

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7 day conventions?

by HereIgo in

did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?

i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.

i couldn't imagine.

Ucantnome

the may 15 1969 Watchtower lists the Assembly at Wembley July 29-Aug 3

I remember I was quite excited and wanted to get the new publications. A friend had been to the one in New York already.

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What is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.

Ucantnome

lol. Breaking bad was a great show. I had to wear all the protective gear hated it.

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What is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.

Ucantnome

I washed test tubes and flasks some with acid for hours in a small windowless room on my own.

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7 day conventions?

by HereIgo in

did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?

i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.

i couldn't imagine.

Ucantnome

I think 1969 at Wembley started on a wet Tuesday and ended the following Sunday We attended all of it. 1963 I think was eight days my mother was ill so we didn't go to all of it.

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What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

by mentalclarity in

so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

Ucantnome

'@Ucantnome I have a very good JW childhood friend who is still in (although probably considered a weak JW). She also tells me she doesn't know or not know if it's the "truth". It doesn't seem to make a difference for her. It's just a social club.'

My comment in my previous post, 'Coming to a conclusion that it isn't the 'truth' isn't something I feel in a position to make.'

I never viewed my being a Witness as being part of a social club, it was my religion. I viewed it as the true religion. When I used the expression someone was 'in the truth' I usually was referring to them as being a JW. The true church or congregation I understood was the anointed 144,000 and I was associating with them.

The primary evidence of this anointing and knowing that they have a heavenly calling I understood was based on having the spirit and a sense of sonship. (Romans 8:15-17, Galatians 4;6,7)

I don't feel that I can say they have or don't have it, I think it is personal to them. All I can say is that I will not join with them in the preaching work as I am not convinced of what I understand the message to be because of what they taught me and changed. Therefore I am no longer a witness but they may still be the anointed. That is my view.