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  What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

  by jwbloodline in

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  i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

  i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

  it's more of a sport.

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  There is a greater danger, however, in learning the martial arts. The Economist magazine recently reported: "Most, if not all, of the martial arts are inextricably linked to the three main East Asian religions, Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism." Another source adds: "Everything done in karate?every movement, every feeling?can be traced to some principle of Zen." Zen is a sect of Buddhism that emphasizes religious meditation. These religious roots pose a serious problem for Christians in view of the Bible?s words at 2 Corinthians 6:17: "?Therefore get out from among [false worshipers], and separate yourselves,? says Jehovah, ?and quit touching the unclean thing.?"

  BroBennett:

  Do you know anything about zen, or are you just quoting the biased, mindless bibble babble of the Watchtower? Can you define the "religious meditation" that is apparently so evil to you? Meditation is a form of deep concentration and reflection. Is it wrong to concentrate and reflect upon one's beliefs? I guess so, unless the beliefs are those that conform with the edicts of the corporate cult of the Watchtower. Zen is not a religion, it is a philosophy. No gods are worshipped, notwithstanding the lies of the Watchtower. Maybe you should open a book that isn't published by the Watchtower corporations for a change. You might find that the corporation that enslaves your mind is interested purely in its own financial well being, and your interests are irrelevant to those corporations. I hope that you and others similarly situated will some day break the grip of the corporate cult that enslaves your mind in mental bondage. Good luck to you, you're going to need it.
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  Corporal punishment

  by JustTickledPink in

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  my opinion is that jw's are into corporal punishment more than the general population.

  maybe it's my imagination, maybe not.. do you remember being told "not to spare the rod" in disciplining children?

  do you remember being that kid that got beat?.

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  I "witnessed" more abuse of children at kingdom halls and assembly halls than anywhere else in my lifetime. We were forced to sit still and listen to the boring brainwashing all day at Dodger Stadium, in the worst of Los Angeles summer heat in July. It was unbearable, but don't move at all, or you'd be like the other kids in the back, getting beaten with belts and wooden spoons. The assemblies would last for five days, and I remember dreading them worse than anything else.

  I feel very sorry for the children of JWs. JWs choose to live miserable lives, but their kids have no such choice. It is imposed upon them by their mentally enslaved parents who heed the commandments of the corporations they serve. It is even more despicable that the WTBTS corporations encourage their parents to force their children to become "slaves" of that corporation, marketing the corporate cult from door to door. The WTBTS is responsible for de facto slavery among the children of the Great Crowd of Pigeons. Hopefully, the governing body and their supporting cast will one day get their karma for all the harm they are responsible for.
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  is there any concrete proof the JWs are wrong? Iam new here.

  by Buck in

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  iam very new to this forum.

  so glad to meet all of you.

  ive been reading here for quite a while but never felt the need to join in.

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  The better question is whether there is any "concrete" proof that they are right. Given their past history of false prophecy, "new light" to explain errors and inconsistencies away, failure to disclose the financial results of their corporate operations to their "flock," and foolishly inconsistent policies on blood that have likely cost many their lives, the burden is on them to prove the truth of their claims. Asking whether there is proof they are wrong is like asking whether there is proof that pink unicorns do not exist.
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  What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

  by jwbloodline in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

  i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

  it's more of a sport.

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  Brobennett:

  You said, "Breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion. There are many disfellowshiped ones that are taken out of Jehovah's organization for a reason."

  First, I'm not sure what a "breeding" pedophile is, but nevertheless, you assert that they are "more common in other religions." What evidence do you have to support this claim? The fact that you have to disfellowhip "many" is an indication that there is or was an abundance of pedophiles in the organization. What steps, if any, are being taken to safeguard the children from these predators?
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  What happens when 144K all die?

  by M.J. in

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  sorry for my ignorance but,.

  what is the wts's stance on the dying out "anointed class"?

  don't they comprise the "faithful, discreet slave"?

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  Very simple. The Society can merely blame Arthur Anderson for an accounting scandal that allowed greater than 144,000 to become annointed. Causes of action will then accrue to Jehovah to litigate this matter, and obtain a declaratory judgment that eliminates the extras. I will survive such action by virtue of the arithmetic immateriality variance granted to me by Jehovah.
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  Crazy JW Sister

  by sandy in

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  my sister will not allow my nieces to go to the amusement park with me this weekend if my disfellowshipped niece (other sister's 20 yr. old daughter) comes along.. my family is aware that i have my doubts and complaints against the org and that i am living in sin with my boyfriend, and they still talk to me.

  not that i am complaining.

  i am grateful.. but i had to stick up for my df'ed niece today.

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  If an elder told a member of my family that he/she could no longer associate with me, the elder would need a restraining order, a police escort, and a hell of a legal team.
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  Were you ever a victim of the "JW STARE"?

  by doodle-v in

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  you know what i'm talking about... .

  for instance, if you go to a meeting and haven't been there for ages.

  your stand up during the song and suddenly what seems like the whole cong gets afflicted with the jw stare.

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  Last time I attended a meeting, which was more than 20 years ago, I went to a Memorial as a "gift" to my JW parents. I got the "stare" all right, from many of the ''sisters," some of whom were there with their husbands. I guess I represented some excitement for women whose choices were, let's say, not exactly something Britney Spears would be salivating over? LOL
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  DESCRIBE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  by minimus in

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  describe a jehovah's witness.

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  Boring.
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  Did You Enjoy Simply Passing The Bread & Wine At The Memorial?

  by minimus in

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  i remember how little kids got so excited when they got to actually touch the glass and the dish!

  yet, most people seemed to (respectfully) keep their heads down and try to look morbidly serious.

  was the act of "passing the emblems" a thrill for you?

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  To me, the memorial was just another undesirable experience in a childhood made miserable by "Jehovah's loving organization." I hated the songs that preceded the event, the prayers, the talk, the emblems, and the subsequent association with brainless drones that was forced upon me by my parents. For me, the best part of the memorial was getting up to use the toilet, and taking as much time in there as I could possibly get away with. The foul stench of the latrines was far preferable to the unbearable stench of the "talk" being spewed from the platform like so much effluent from a broken sewer pipe.
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  Stupidest thing a JW ever told you

  by Nosferatu in

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  what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?

  we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.

  for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.

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  I was told that a JW family was watching the "Bewitched" television show, and decided to turn it off due to its "demonic" content. When they shut off the TV, a hand came out of the television and turned it back on to the "Bewitched" television program. The "demon" in their television refused to allow them to change the channel or turn the TV off. This happened repeatedly until an elder was brought to the house to "exorcise" the demon from the television. The moral of the story was to avoid watching television programs such as "Bewitched" because to do so constituted "inviting the demons into your home."

  I've invited that demon to my home, and hope he/she takes me up on the offer. I'm planning to serve as that demon's agent for negotiations with the television networks for the purpose of contracting that demon's services to influence the Nielsen ratings.