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  If your mate remains in the org...

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some here have had the bonus of their mate leaving with them.

  unfortunately, my wife is die-hard.

  everything in the org makes sense and if it don't, thats fine too.

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  I am sorry to hear that, AM.

  I have talked to her about it, and she listens and makes excuses for everything and believe everything the org tells her. I just haven't made it known to anyone else. I still go to meetings and we talk about the good points, but when I ask a question or anything that sounds even remotely close to negative about to society, she shows her die hardness, because she thinks she "knows" where it going. Even if its legit, like if the speaker says "the society says" 10 times but opens the Bible once during the entire 30 minutes. She say "Yes I noticed, I know where this is going, drop it".

  At first i thought she was slowly coming around but still in denial stage. I'd ask a question she couldnt answer or show some obvious flaw in a WT, and she would remain silent. Over time, I thought at least a little progress was made.

  Last week I asked if she thought I was mentally diseased or is there something wrong with me. She said no, but I lost faith in the org Jah is using. Then we discussed just one of my main issues and she stated she is going nowhere, but could see us at Bethel or serving somewhere in 5 years. So i realized she is still die hard. Not even a crack as of yet.

  But we are both going in different directions, she knows it and i know it.
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  If your mate remains in the org...

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some here have had the bonus of their mate leaving with them.

  unfortunately, my wife is die-hard.

  everything in the org makes sense and if it don't, thats fine too.

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  Some here have had the bonus of their mate leaving with them. Unfortunately, my wife is die-hard. Everything in the org makes sense and if it don't, thats fine too. She wants to go to Couples school and/or Bethel badly. I can barely hang on without going crazy, much less "progress" in the org.

  I honestly cringe at the thought of adultery, because I love her to death, and I am aware God is not pleased with it. So, how have some of you coped with a similiar situation?

  I am hurting her and will be hindering her from her goals for LIFE, but my fronting will only be possible for a very short period of time (not according to WT definition). I want her to be happy and be free to do everything she wants.

  Talk about a silent scream.
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  Did you have financial struggles when leaving WTS?

  by Silent_Scream in

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  2. friends

  what have you done when realizing you've sacrificed your life and education for the wts and realized you were about to get out but finances wasn't coming through good?.

  what helped you short term and long term?.

  what would you tell your newfound self if you could go back?.

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  What have you done when realizing you've sacrificed your life and education for the WTS and realized you were about to get out but finances wasn't coming through good?

  What helped you short term and long term?

  What would you tell your newfound self if you could go back?
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  Why have you remained theists?

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i realize many on this forum are atheist, and theres many threads to show why.

  some believe creationist lack knowledge or understanding and that we are too ignorant to realize there isn't a creator.. i have studied (not in depth) first year college science, and am studying medical/health currently.

  i am also very interested in astronomy, and have learned a little in that area.

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  I realize many on this forum are atheist, and theres many threads to show why. Some believe creationist lack knowledge or understanding and that we are too ignorant to realize there isn't a creator.

  I have studied (not in depth) first year college science, and am studying medical/health currently. I am also very interested in astronomy, and have learned a little in that area. Everything I've learned is so profound and amazing and leaves so many questions that I feel God HAS to be responsible. Science is good for understanding, but I dont think God can be limited to science, since He set the rules, laws, and everything else in motion. I am still learning, but even with all I do understand, it makes my belief in a Creator stronger. Just a little but into my brain, but for those whom are still theistic...

  What is it that keeps God real to you?

  And whats your view on the Bible? And which version/translation do you use?

  If no Bible, which holy book(s) do you use?

  Not interested in debate, I am REALLY interested in these things...

  Thanks all!
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  Are elders simply procedural scapegoats?

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower constantly talks about elders doing everything "in love" and being reasonable and balanced, and not being masters over their brothers' faith (hypocritically).. but when elders receive specific direction from co and training from schools and letters, they go over mostly procedures, procedures, rules, how to obey the gb and if the friends dont like it, too bad because its from jah's organization.

  and procedures.

  so they are trained to go by the book, and if love can be shown, cool.

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  The Watchtower constantly talks about elders doing everything "IN LOVE" and being reasonable and balanced, and not being masters over their brothers' faith (hypocritically).

  But when elders receive specific direction from CO and training from schools and letters, they go over mostly procedures, procedures, rules, how to obey the GB and if the friends dont like it, too bad because its from Jah's organization. And procedures. So they are trained to go by the book, and if love CAN be shown, cool. But if it interferes with direction, then procedures come first.

  Therefore, when dealing with friends, the friends get the legal unattached version of the elders. So when the articles come out about how elders should behave, it makes the elders seem like jerks and the ever so faithful slave seem reasonable and loving (when behind closed doors, elders get pats on the back for handling things the best way, which is, by the book. F everyone who complains about it).

  My point is, does it seem that the GB makes the elders the scapegoat of enforcing unloving blind procedures, to make themselves look better?
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  No real religion! We just need to be different than any and everyone else!

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this must be a memo from a gb meeting:.

  they say: jesus died on a cross we say: he died on a stake.

  they show: jesus having long hair we show: him with short curly hair.

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  Please excuse format, Im still getting adjusted.
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  No real religion! We just need to be different than any and everyone else!

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this must be a memo from a gb meeting:.

  they say: jesus died on a cross we say: he died on a stake.

  they show: jesus having long hair we show: him with short curly hair.

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  This must be a memo from a GB meeting:

  They say: Jesus died on a cross We say: He died on a stake

  They show: Jesus having long hair We show: Him with short curly hair

  They say: December 25th We say: August something

  They say: Priests, deacons, pastors We say: Elders and ministerial servants

  They say: Beards are losing negative stigma We say: (Nothing, but its wrong anyway!)

  They have: Big fancy buildings We say: Small humble buildings

  They say: Church We say: Kingdom Halls

  They say: Women can teach We say: Nah

  They say: Party We say: Christian gathering, and music has to be to a whisper and everyone home by 9.

  They say: Music and dancing at weddings is fun We say: Just eat and play Kingdom Melodies

  They say: Recreation should be fun We say: Recreation should only allow you to be ready for meetings and service again

  They say: Vacation is a break to relax and unwind We say: God-approved vacations are seldom worked territory and conventions

  The list never ends! Feel free to add more!

  Is it me, or does it seems like instead of following Bible, GB goal is just to make members opposite everyone else?
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  My story...

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems i pooped up out of nowhere.

  i been following this site for a while.

  couldn't resist it anymore..... was pretty much raised a jw.

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  @Mickey Mouse: Very good question. I am working to get into the medical field right now. Got done with some schooling, looking to further it. I still have a lot to think and sort out....

  But since Armageddon will be here any minute now, even if I have no plans, I think I'm safe!
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  My story...

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems i pooped up out of nowhere.

  i been following this site for a while.

  couldn't resist it anymore..... was pretty much raised a jw.

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  Thanks all!
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  My story...

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems i pooped up out of nowhere.

  i been following this site for a while.

  couldn't resist it anymore..... was pretty much raised a jw.

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  Silent_Scream

  Yes, its a cleansing going on from "thinkers". They don't need that. Its obvious they want us rooted out for an org of "YES" men. The Bible never approved or even condoned that. In fact, i should get out completely so I do not share in her sins!