Don't attack me.
Provide an answer.
And please reread my posts from previous page. This is supremely repititous and redundant.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
Don't attack me.
Provide an answer.
And please reread my posts from previous page. This is supremely repititous and redundant.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
No one can ever go to a nicely built house and claim it literally came out of nowhere.
I could take all the elements of the house (wood, metal, glass, etc) and find origins elsewhere, but to come together in something as well crafted and able to be utilized as a house, people would think I'm crazy if I said no one built it.
There's no proof someone was there, cut the wood, put up walls, painted, etc, in a sense. The proof is in the building itself.
Much less things as complicated as cells and DNA and many things around us.
So, for some, it is completely logical and sensible to believe there is an intelligent designer. It's not "magic" as claims those who like to belittle the argument. Science to us is only a way of understanding the things around us and functions, not defining.
Atheists may not agree, and that's fine. But it's not void of evidence as you all so claim. You just view evidence differently.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
If this is your real problem . . . then why did you start another one?
It wasn't my intent to prove there is a God.
Like I been saying, many feel they got the upper hand because all their ideas are based on evidence. And that is not the case. There is a serious hole in atheistic thinking that some can seem to patch. Yet, it seems to be a huge key in dismissing a creator.
It's like "I don't know how life got started, but I know it wasn't a God". That's contradictory, and just as bad as people believing in God while dismissing scientific reality.
If any believe in a Creator, it's based on reality, and not some "hope" that in the future man will hopefully figure out how it all started, especially when it is illogical against science itself to believe life somehow came from nonlife.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
My request was simple.
Receiving an answer, not so much.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
no one has evidence, that is the point
AGREED!
So why is there so many atheistic/theistic arguments?
Seems like many ain't get the memo.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
No one can ever go to a nicely built house and claim it literally came out of nowhere.
I could take all the elements of the house (wood, metal, glass, etc) and find origins elsewhere, but to come together in something as well crafted and able to be utilized as a house, people would think I'm crazy if I said no one built it.
There's no proof someone was there, cut the wood, put up walls, painted, etc, in a sense. The proof is in the building itself.
Much less things as complicated as cells and DNA and many things around us.
So, for some, it is completely logical and sensible to believe there is an intelligent designer. It's not "magic" as claims those who like to belittle the argument. Science to us is only a way of understanding the things around us and functions, not defining.
Atheists may not agree, and that's fine. But it's not void of evidence as you all so claim. You just view evidence differently.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
I do appreciate the info.
I would like to see evidence, tho. My request was simple. Everything else is doo doo for this discussion.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
QCMBR - Good explanation. I am interested to learn more...
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.
science is observable, science is reproducible.
a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.
All I ask is for evidence. It's evident that in some important ideas we cannot provide evidences. And that's ok.
No one is stupid, foolish, ignorant, nor diminished of cognitive abilities (except if they are, but that doesnt differentiate between believing in God or not).
These arguments become moot. No one can prove EVERYTHING. Therefore, there still hasn't been answer to my question.
That's why I got ready for the ad hominems and such.
bohm- my point?
Atheists should not attack and belittle theists unless you are all prepared to be scrutinized and have all your facts ready.
True, myself nor any other theist cannot provide scientific evidences for a Creator.
But neither can atheists provide scientific evidence of any alternative of origin of life.
Like you said - SO WHAT? (yet atheists jump down the throat of anyone believing in a creator, at least here on JWN) I don't like hypocrisy.