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  Who's Cult is it Anyway...???

  by Bells in

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  firstly - i am not, and never have been a witness.

  my bf's family are all witnesses and i have been looking into the religion lately to try to get a better understanding of where they're coming from.

  (btw, my bf is not a witness - he was thankfully never baptised and he just walked away from it about 13 years ago).

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  erbie

  I have thought long and hard on this subject and the conclusion that I have come up with is that people believe what they want to believe to the point that if you really want to believe something badly enough then you will.

  In short, I think that the GB want to believe in their own teachings so much that they really do believe it or they have conditioned their own minds to unquestioningly accept it as truth.

  If you think about it, it's not rocket science, if you accept something and do not allow yourself to question it or look at it objectively then your mind has no choice but to believe it as truth or whatever the mind perceives truth to be.

  In any case, I think that the idea that people believe what they want to is the only exlanation for how humans can accept nonsense as truth.

  Worryingly, this leads me to question myself thus: Did the WT brainwash me or did I brainwash myself because of the desire to beleive in a wonderful new paradise earth.

  Come on guys, ignore the WT connection, who wouldn't want to live in a place like that. I know I would.
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  Which songs/Albums were considered "Demonic" in your Congregation...did you toss some?

  by Witness 007 in

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  "hotel california" was considered a major demonic song.

  ac/dc stood for anti-christ devils children....{not according to the band} kiss stood for knight s in satans service {not according to the band} anyone else have to toss albums?.

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  The Kingdom Melodies were generally considered a definite no-no and of demonic origin.
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  Creepy photo of the day

  by kurtbethel in

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  stolen childhood.

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  erbie

  I thank the cult for all the books and magazines-it was a harsh winter last year and the furnace needed feeding!

  I think my neighbours must have thought I'd elected a new Pope.
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  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

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  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

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  erbie

  Sorry, should be 'deranged'.
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  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

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  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

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  Seriously, God would not allow so much suffering just to prove his point.

  Only a very childish and diranged mind would punish billions of people just to settle a dispute.

  How can anyone reason differently?
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  Creepy photo of the day

  by kurtbethel in

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  stolen childhood.

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  Wow! This thread has even got OUTLAW expressing emotion.

  It just goes to show that many of us had our childhood adversely influenced and memories of that crucial stage in our lives are still very much with us and probably always will be.

  We've all suffered together and so we all relate to each other.
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  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
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  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

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  No, it's complete and utter bollocks.

  You cannot get sense from nonsense.
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  JW leadership vacuum - explained!

  by sir82 in

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  jw leadership shows an appalling lack of creativty and originality.. -- meeting attendance down across the board?

  let's keep the same 1940's format anyway!.

  -- missionaries quitting their assignments?

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  You mention the book study group in homes.

  I wonder if they abolished it to give themselves greater control over what R&F members are taught.

  It makes me wonder if they viewed the book study group as an ungovernable and informal area in which apostasy or independant thinking could creep in.

  Having everything in the Hall definately gives them more control, right?
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  Creepy photo of the day

  by kurtbethel in

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  stolen childhood.

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  erbie

  I'm deadly serious now.

  Is this child abuse?

  Is it?
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  Anybody know anything about Scooters?

  by Terry in

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  i have never ridden/driven a motorcycle or a scooter.

  but, i'm thinking about getting one.. in fact, a chinese scooter!.

  they get 100 mpg on gasoline and they are under $900 bucks.. .

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  Yeah Terry, I agree with James Woods, if I lived in the US and especially Texas I'd definately get the biggest big ass truck I could.

  You could always carry the scooter in the back in case you run out of petrol!

  On a serious level though, when I travel through Europe and see all the Parisians and Italians zooming around on scooters with HOT babes clinging on to them I think WOW, I'd love to do that! So yes, I too have been thinking about buying a scooter. Just need a hot babe, or my wife of course.

  We went for a drink near Southampton in the summer and there were hundreds of scooters in town. Apparently some guy had died who was a Mod (don't know if you have Mods in the States) and all his mates turned up to show respect.

  How cool is that?