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  An ex-Jehovah's Witness turns Cult Leader

  by iamwhoiam in

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  i can't believe i just now heard of this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2oa4oigvo.

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  enjoy!.

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  erbie

  Well, from one cult to another I guess.

  Very worrying. His methods are very similar to the WT$ but with the end result being more pronounced.
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  Is There Any Real Difference Between Elders & Priests?

  by minimus in

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  i see very little except that priests wear black..

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  erbie

  Its easy. Priests parade around in black telling people what to do while elders.......................well..............umm......................................yes, I see what you mean.
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  Finished Mystery (1917)... The book that Jesus approved...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).

  i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.

  but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.

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  erbie

  How interesting. It's funny how Jesus supposedly selected an apostate religion (which, by it's own qualification it is).

  I have a genuine copy of The Divine Plan of The Ages which I discovered in an old book shop. It's the one with the pyramid diagrams.

  I also have the blue Creation book written by Rutherford I believe which is not quite so old.

  Both very stupid reading though.

  I also have Life Everlasting in Freedom of The Sons of God which very clearly shows the whole 1975 teaching (Franz).

  I'm serious, these guys were seriously off their trolly.

  Nowadays I wouldn't go near it with a disinfected barge pole.
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  Jesus God Resurrected

  by woman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this quote in wtbts publication, worldwide security under the "prince of peace" copyrighted 1986. page 144,paragraph 2.. .

  "this jesus god resurrected.

  do you ever recall stating that jesus was god resurrected?

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  erbie

  I know this is a WT article but the priciple applies to their other publications.

  To be honest, the whole of the NWT is a really bad lesson in the use of the English language.

  A lot of it used to really throw me. I think that because they have 'fudged' such a lot of it and altered it so much, when you put it all together it just doesn't read very well. In fact it reads very badly and if that is so how can you learn from it?

  Their criticism of the NIV and the NEV is well known but at least these bibles actually read coherently.
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  Bro. Lett (Governing Body) borrowed illustration from an outspoken WT critic

  by fugue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we're discussing this over on jwr:.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.

  a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.

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  erbie

  Lovin it!!!

  That's spot on!!!

  Absolutely spot on.
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  What is the worst date you've ever had???

  by the_raisin in

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  2. relationships

  hey guys, just wanted to hear your stories about the worst dates you have been in or have heard about.. .

  let's see... worst date... hmm.... .

  okay so this didn't happen to me, but i was there lol.

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  erbie

  Better luck next time Terry (if you are brave enough).
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  WT is a cash cow for who? do the GB know they are frauds?

  by thecrushed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i've understood it the gb has taken a vow of poverty.

  on jwn they are constantly accused of guilt tripping their subjects to keep distributing there literature to make converts in order to keep growing the number of donations which is a valid point.

  i ask this question in all honesty and naivety to see where the truth of the matter lies.

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  erbie

  First class indeed!!!

  I do wonder what Jesus would say about that.

  After all, to be born in a stable was good enough for him and rightly so.

  These guys are just worshiping theis god, Mamon.
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  1914 - 2014 ,,,when the ( truth about the truth ) will be seen by all.

  by witchtowerwitch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  jesus said in the gospels: when you see jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies then the appointed time of the gentiles has arrived,so it wasn't the first attack in 587 bce.

  but jesus said the words,,,,"will be,points to the 2nd attack in about the year 70 ad.

  ,yes into the future people"!so the idiots that dreamt up 607 bce.

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  erbie

  Well, it is possible I suppose.

  They have been known to make the odd mistake ;)
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  Bro. Lett (Governing Body) borrowed illustration from an outspoken WT critic

  by fugue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we're discussing this over on jwr:.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.

  a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.

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  erbie

  Perhaps his eyes have been opened. He's obviously reading non prescribed literature and that's where he gets his illustrations from.

  Naughty boy!
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  Bro. Lett (Governing Body) borrowed illustration from an outspoken WT critic

  by fugue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we're discussing this over on jwr:.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.

  a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.

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  erbie

  Wow, I just watched the video. I had to listen with headphones on as I would never let my kids even overhear that kind of silly nonsense.

  Wow!!! He's full of it. I've never met any of these guys but I have met members of the UK bethel at funerals and so on and they all seem so detatched and vacant.

  I'd probably interpret most of his 'oddness' as insincerity. They know they are bullshiting everyone and it makes them uncomfortable even if they are very accomplished at hiding it.

  Simply put, They can't believe people still believe it after all this time and all those failed prophesies.

  Also, don't they (GB) appear to be getting younger?

  What a farce!!!