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  Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  this file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.

  the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.

  they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.

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  erbie

  Studying all this stuff is rather like using a Monopoly game to get a feel for the property market.

  I'm sorry folks, but I just can't see any sense in any of it.

  I'm thinking...

  Cult!!!
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  *Facepalm* What do you make of this cultish email I just got from my JW friend? What do I say to her?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  a bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.

  she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.

  far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.

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  erbie

  I have been through all of this myself Julia and in the end, no matter how close you are to Witness friends, the religion will usually divide people and you will go your own way and they will fixate over something or someone else. I had many long term JW friends (I think they were friends) but the religion is the very thing that divides us and as with me, in time you will be amazed at how much you have changed and moved on and how they have remained the same.

  Whenever I meet an old witness 'friend' in town I am truly astounded at there being no change in them. They do not seem to grow and it is the very organization they follow that, out of its own insecurity, prevents its followers from advancing for fear they will out-grow the leaders.

  We had an elder in our congregation who said that " sometimes, the best thing to do is to do nothing at all". That is probably the best piece of advice I ever heard at a Kingdom Hall and I applied it when leaving the JW's.

  In short, you could argue/correspond with them from now until doomsday to no avail as people will believe what they want to believe and if they are to see the truth about the truth then they must do it in their own time.

  I think it is hard for them because, as they watch you leave, they somehow feel that they are being left behind which, of course, they are.

  I wish you the very best.

  erbie
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  What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?

  by minimus in

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  there are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..

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  erbie

  Too much for me to choose from.

  A worldwide cult that is governed from America is a pretty good (and obvious) place to start and from there, just work your way downwards.
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  There she goes with that "thank Jehovah" again

  by ShirleyW in

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  2. friends

  just once after serena williams says "thanks to jehovah god" i would love to hear the commentator ask her "when's the last time you've been out in field service or attended a meeting"?.

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  erbie

  I can't believe she's so stupid as to think that God is helping her win a tennis match while millions of children/people starve to death.

  How thick can you be???

  It's just as well she's good at sport because she can't be very bright!
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  Former L T Elder- Head Quarters & Great Tribulation

  by James Jackson in

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  2. friends

  the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.

  the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!

  then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!

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  erbie

  Oh, I was duped for some time but eventually obeyed my intuition and became a true and faithful inactivator.

  Being an inactivator isn't a cult though, so don't worry...
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  Former L T Elder- Head Quarters & Great Tribulation

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
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  the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.

  the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!

  then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!

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  erbie

  I'm really smug about that...

  Not to mention that I'm pretty sure I've invented a new word!
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  Former L T Elder- Head Quarters & Great Tribulation

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
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  the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.

  the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!

  then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!

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  erbie

  I'm a 'long term' inactivator
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  It appears that Candace Conti has a strong case. However...

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  2. scandals

  i believe we may all be surprized at the final outcome of this case.... as you may already know, arnold schwarzennegar appointed robert mcguiness as superior court judge in 2005. mcguinness is the judge in the candace conti case.. it is widely known that arnold scharzennegar is a high-ranking freemason with direct ties to the rothschild family (primary shareholders of the watchtower corporation).

  judge robert mcguinness comes from a family of powerful and influential irish freemasons who also enjoy strong ties to the rothschild family.. so this could go south very quickly for candace in the next few days.... .

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  erbie

  Good point Phizzy.

  Bang on the money.
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  A JW apologist writes about VAT 4956

  by VM44 in

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  2. bible

  a jw wrote the following in an attempt to discredit the evidence provided by vat 4956. comments on the author's logic would be appreciated.

  does vat 4956 prove 587?.

  many point to vat 4956 as proof that jerusalem was desolated in 587bce.

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  erbie

  They still need to prove that they are right and that is impossible so it is an empty argument. I've combed through all this stuff so many times it now makes me tired just to think of it.

  If they are right and Jesus did return in 1914 (which is what they are trying to sell) then where is he???

  Don't waste time even contemplating it!
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  Even MORE evidence for "Jesus died on a Cross"?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i like jwfact's http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/cross-or-stake.php.

  it would probably be interesting to add the information found in this article:.

  http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/crucifixion/the-staurogram/.

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  erbie

  This was very informative, thankyou.

  This is very interesting and important info for both Witnesses and and ex Witnesses but the fact is that the Romans crucified people, that is what they did. History confirms that is what they did. Why on earth the Watchtower insists on being contrary is beyond me. We do an injustice to ourselves and others by even considering their petty argument which has no historical backing whatsoever.

  Thanks again for sharing this.