moley i just loved your thread on life in the new system but i was also wondering what will happen if old testament patriachs such as noah, abel, moses and others decide they do not want to be jws in the new system will they be destroyed by jehovah and jesus after all of their faithful service?
i have always wondered about this because they are not guranteed everlasting life until they past the final test after the 1000 year reign of jesus.
what happens if moses is angry with jehovah after he is reserrected and cannot believe it took so long 4000 years for the great tribulation will he be wiped out instantly.
Good questions, but the whole concept is kind of creepy. Here is a dilemma that I struggled with:
When a Baptist (or any other religion) is resurrected, will this person then conclude that their religious faith is what saved them? How will they then react when a post Armageddon JW knocks on their door and tells them that the only reason they are in paradise is that they were lucky enough to die before the Great Tribulation - and if they don't change their ways they will be destroyed.
jw app now plays videos and everyone is complaining because they don't work.
well, except for those lying loons that just say its a brilliant app even when it has more bugs in it than a corn field.
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They probably don't work on iPads because, as everyone knows, there are demons lurking in iPads.
today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).
in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".
our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.
Guilt is such a wonderful concept. It is highly effective. Or, at least it gets a response. The problem with using a coercive tool like guilt is that you will get activity, just probably not the activity that you want.
a tragic, but honest, story.
well written, in my opinion.. i'd like to see how the local jw's would handle this being mentioned to them this saturday morning in the ministry.. it's just a shame it's only a local newspaper, not a national.. www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/more-news/former-jehovah-s-witness-leaves-memorial-to-family-who-shunned-her-1-6206648.
tf1.
This was also posted on Facebook. Stories like this are important and perhaps may embarrass the organization sufficiently to change - yea probably not...
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
Don't punish yourself - at least not yet. Your punishment will be in August when you actually pioneer. I hope you have figure out the round of numbers routine to help make your hours count. And besides, what are the required hours now to pioneer - 30? You can get those done before noon on a Saturday morning.
we all know the sort of thing..... in many congregations, specific "rules" creep in...introduced by the local elders that become set in stone.. years ago, i heard of a congregation that sat down during the first song of the evening but stood for all others (the co changed that very soon after).
then there were the older accounts of congs that had rules to make the public speakers wear only white shirts.... in one cong now, i heard that brothers can only be used for sound or microphones if they do a minimum of 5 hours per month in the ministry!.
another cong has ruled that all appointed men must pioneer for at least one month each year in order to remain qualified.. .
Sitting in the front. I was in one congregation where the elders would rope off the last five or six rows to force people to sit in the front.
recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".
her response went something like this, " we are all out!
everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..
We all need to be more vocal with our apostacism, your post confirms this.
Eat drink and be merry. Enjoy.
I may be disfellowshipped, but I am not sure. I guess I could find out, but I am not interested.
100 years since world war i07/28/14 07:44 am by timothy noah and johnny simon.
"one hundred years ago today, emperor franz josef of austria-hungary declared war on serbia in retaliation for the assassination one month earlier of his heir apparent, archduke franz ferdinand, by a serbian pan-slavic nationalist.
what might otherwise have remained a regional conflict between the dying hapsburg empire and one of its former holdings instead became, through a tangle of alliances and a global power imbalance, two world wars that began in 1914 and ended in 1945, with a 21-year intermission for the jazz age and the great depression.".
This can't be right, I thought the war started in October to align with pushing satan to the vicinity of the earth.
dear brothers:.
you will be pleased to know that the governing body has approved displaying the official.
logo for jw.org on assembly halls and kingdom halls.
I find it funny that because the watchtower did not understand the power of the internet they passively allowed those bad apostates to capture all the jehovah's witness related web addresses. They were left with only two letters. Let me know if you would like me to tell you where you can stick those two letters.
