i've always been confused as to what the discrepancy is between the phrases "spirit directed/spirit led" and "inspired".
in the february 2017 watchtower study article, paragraph 12 says:.
12 the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
Assuming that you actually "believe" the bible is from god.
Look back at the "servants" of god, how many times did god give them the WRONG understanding or direction on something?
NEVER - his direction - leanings - inspired prophets - never had to go back and say - UH Sorry I Think God Meant THIS not THAT.
Think of this - on really the most important matter - the ID of the FDS - how could it take 100 years for god to DIRECT them as to who they really are.
I mean come on.
jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
Cofty - I HATE that word.
When I was still an elder and working on my Fade - I almost NEVER said it, even in talks.
watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
and Long hair girl,
I was not offended - just telling my considered experience.
watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
snugglebunny
It just went on and on. One courting couple I knew believed that anal sex was OK as it was a non-divorceable offence if performed outside of marriage so therefore obviously not a disfellowshipping offence either. No confession required!
Man talk about making the BEST out of a hard situation! Kudos to them!!!
watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
LongHasirGirl - I have to disagree a bit. I think the confidentiality depends on the congregation and the elders.
I was an elder a long time, and we did very well not talking out of turn.
True it's not foolproof, and some people like to show they are big shots about what they know.
I think what happens more often is that people put 2 and 2 together and think someone f#cked around. And that's true 90% of the time.
Don't get me wrong - JWs are the BIGGEST Gossip Whores you will ever find.
I have experience that to a large degree after fading.
what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?
are you a born again christian?
have you joined another denomination of christianity?
One thing you learn as a JW is why all other religions are FALSE.
You get to see all their contradictions and lies and stupid beliefs.
Now when you come to realize that the WT is the same as them, it's hard to not think of organized religion the same way as Marx did.
The reality of all this hits you hard.
today there was a jesus preaching head case with a bullhorn blaring "save yourself from the fires of hell!
accept jesus.
god loves you!
Yes I realize I drank the Koolaid. When you are a kid you believe what ever your parents tell you. I was an elder had pioneered, used on DC for big talks a lot, was very respected in the circuit...
I was an elder had pioneered, used on DC for big talks a lot, RBC for decades, was very respected in the circuit...
Now like others I am embarrassed at some of the things I said and did.
I also have sympathy for those still in (to a degree - some are just assh*les).
I don't like acting like they are all idiots because they are IN - since I was THEM for almost all my life.
watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
I think it can be interpreted either way.
Thats why the bible is crap.
the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".
i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.
while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.
FYI - Asian cultures always take shoes off when entering a home.
I am not asian and I do as well.
regarding the recent 1975 video at the convention it hit me !.
when reasoning with people about the inspiration of the bible we used the bible writers candor ie/ there honesty when recording bible accounts about there personal mistakes .. how come the governing body despite its claims to be spirit directed are not honest about there mistakes ?.
How often do they talk about how one of the Proofs that the bible is from god is that his servants in it always talk honestly about their mistakes, like moses and david...
