Posts by ttdtt

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The laziness of JW parents....

by stuckinarut2 in

it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?

ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?

ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!

ttdtt

Yes 100%. But not only lazy parents but lazy spouses.

Being I JW can be very toxic to the relationship you have with your wife or husband.

You are brainwashed to not concentrate on your marriage but on meetings and service and bla bla bla.

This can only be done for the sake of your relationship.

So what I have seen over and over again, is couples how to grow apart without even knowing it.

Instead of seeing problems and issues and dealing with them as your marriage progresses, you ignore them, put them on hold, think how wonderful your mate will be in paradise, but NEVER work on the issues you have.

Always look at it as not wanting things to impact your relationship with Jah and the congregation.

It has brought so much pain.

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Reflecting On The JW Version Of You

by pale.emperor in

lately i've been thinking over how far i've come over the last 2.5 years since leaving the cult.

when i first left i remember not knowing who i really was and what my beliefs and values were.

previously my values and beliefs were dictated to me the the governing body in watchtower magazines.. i'm politically active, being a member of a political party and i'm even considering running in my local election in a few years.. when it comes to religion, im an atheist who has little time for superstition and "god did it" answers to complex questions.

ttdtt

Good topic. I will think about it and reply.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

ttdtt

Venus - How convenient.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

ttdtt

A seed can feel it is finished as it has been buried—it doesn’t know it has only been planted to continue living!

Venus - I am happy you have the solace of your faith - but - I can prove to you that seeds exist.
I can experiment with what happens to seeds when put in the ground.
I can follow them from seed to sprout every second of the way.
I can examine the DNA of the seed and even make changes to it if I want.
A seed does not have a brain so it cant know or feel anything.
There is NOT mystery on how a seed works.
I don't need FAITH when I plant my flowers.

Even if God is willing to provide proof, are we able to see Him, hear Him, feel Him … Our physical eyes are able to see only those objects that lie within the visible range.... It means there are several objects that our eyes cannot perceive

So god is SOOOO powerful - he cants make himself know in an indisputable way?

By the way - our minds have made tools so we can detect and see and manipulate all those things that our eyes cant see.

If god were real, he would make his presence know so it was...
Indisputable - Unambiguous - and it would be Globally Accepted.

By the way Gamma Ray bursts I think you are talking about happens when a massive star converts lighter elements into heavier ones through fusion. When fusion no longer makes enough pressure to counteract gravity, the star rapidly collapses to form a black hole. The energy may be released during the collapse along the axis of rotation to form a gamma-ray burst that is amazingly powerful. (dont know what your point is on that)

By the way, the bible didn't help us figure that our. The human mind using the scientific method over decades of years did. Einstien gave us the math that lets us understand what is going on, and observation and experimentation confirm it. NO FAITH REQUIRED.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

ttdtt

The vast majority of life in general requires faith.

Perry that is a really silly argument and you know it is.

You refuse to answer my questions and just keep going around in circles.
Your are a TROLL - we have so many on this site now that it has changed the nature of the site.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

ttdtt

How is this even a thread? Perry you have FAITH in god.
The conversation ends there.

All religions require FAITH.

Definition: A strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

You know what - if god wanted, he could do 1 miracle right now and end the whole matter, but that won't happen.

What keeps god for just having a booming voice out of the sky talk to EVERYONE all over the world and say - dudes I am god, this is what I want? Does he only want people to believe in him without proof?

This is such a joke.

Also I asked before Perry - The bible says god lives in a specific place - HEAVEN. DId HEAVEN exist before god, is it co-eternal with god, did god make heaven himself, if so when did he make it? How long was he around before he made heaven? If he was COMPLETE in himself, why did he need heaven? If he was complete why did he make jesus - if he made jesus to share something with him - how long was he around before jesus, and what changed that made him start wanting to create things - was he bored?

Also on TIME. IF you believe in god - time was in existence before the Universe. It was not a creation at the time of the Universe birthday.
Why? Track events. Were angels created before the Universe - the bible says yes - was jesus created before angels - the bible says yes - was god around before jesus - the bible says yes.

These are all events in TIME.

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I HATE JW funerals

by jws in

jw
friends

jw funeral last night.

it was about half an hour from start to finish.

they opened with basic facts about the person.

ttdtt

Unless you happen to get a great speaker with some balls, its just a recruitment speech.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

ttdtt

Perry I am not trying to belittle your beliefs, I wish I had faith in life after death.

If the evidence of Jesus Resurrection is far from Hearsay (for me it is the definition of hearsay) why do only 1 out of 7 people Christian? and why our of those 1 of 7 - are only a fraction true believers and not just nominal?

Why is gods story and the promise of life everlasting so unbelievably unconvincing that the whole world doesn't about it out of hand, and with the people who do - you could not get 2 to agree on exactly what they believe.

I believe that Julius Ceaser lived and was the Emperor of Rome - not because of Shakespear, but because there is INCONTROVERTIBLE and ABUNDANT proof of his existence. There is NO proof of Jesus - if there was we would not have this thread.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

ttdtt

Funny how all the amazing miracles all happened at a time where the only verification was - "I'll take your word for it"

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When did Cook, the new GB member, start claiming to be anointed, and what are the implications?

by jwfacts in

kenneth cook was a "helper" in the writing department, which is apparently a role for those of the great crowd.

watchtower 15/10/15 p.3 states that helpers are of the great crowd.

"since 1992, the governing body has appointed experienced, mature christian elders to help its committees carry out their work.

ttdtt

Hey, Spalin opened up a big can of worms + revisionist history opportunities when he said 2 times that you could be Anointed but not part of the Generation.

I guess this is why he said it.