stuckinarut
Ttdtt! Your comment is very interesting too!
It became a painful, very painful realization of fact for me.
it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?
ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?
ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!
stuckinarut
Ttdtt! Your comment is very interesting too!
It became a painful, very painful realization of fact for me.
when i was a young man growing up in the religion, i would try to defend whatever the understanding of a doctrine was.
i won a lot of arguments based on the idea that i knew better than anyone i was talking to and defended myself admirably.
(lol)....eventually, i realized i was in a cult but for many years i was a believer and i had faith that the gb knew more that i could understand..
For years I twisted my self into a pretzel to make things jive.
The science stuff I could never rationalize, and I just chalked it put to Old guys running the show who dont get it.
tuesday, february 27. let the elders who preside in a fine way be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching.—1 tim.
5:17.. those related to us in the faith certainly merit honor and respect.
this is especially true of the elders who are taking the lead.
sparky1 - where was that? In a WT publication?
tuesday, february 27. let the elders who preside in a fine way be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching.—1 tim.
5:17.. those related to us in the faith certainly merit honor and respect.
this is especially true of the elders who are taking the lead.
Its all so wonderful. The uneducated men who have the % of making good decisions no better than a coin flip - yet they deserve so much for the people they screw.
And the rest is so nice except there is NO evidence of a Governing Body in the bible - nor any kind of organization as they have today.
Just bullshit that the R&F (like I used to) eat and ask for seconds.
just when you think you've seen it all comes another interesting use of a kingdom hall.a young man serenades his girlfriend with a song (possibly a watchtower song) from the stage through a microphone and backed by recorded music.
then he steps off the stage and gets down on one knee and proposes as he pulls out a ring from his coat pocket.
the large projector screen flashes up behind them with a picture of a sapphire and diamond ring.cameras capture the joyous moment as she accepts and they lock together in a loving hug.
NEVER CRINGED MORE IN MY LIFE.
Just like the bible says.
14 Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works?p That faith cannot save him, can it?q 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing* and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it?r 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead.s
lately i've been thinking over how far i've come over the last 2.5 years since leaving the cult.
when i first left i remember not knowing who i really was and what my beliefs and values were.
previously my values and beliefs were dictated to me the the governing body in watchtower magazines.. i'm politically active, being a member of a political party and i'm even considering running in my local election in a few years.. when it comes to religion, im an atheist who has little time for superstition and "god did it" answers to complex questions.
Pale - I feel almost exactly like you in all your points.
Politics, yes! Religion, no! Feminist, yes! Marriage, no unless you already committed!!
Think before you jump, yes!
The one place I think I differ is that I am not happy.
I have made sure my kids are free of the cult, and there is no price I wasn't willing to pay for that.
But there has been fallout (not DFing, im not - or the expected shunned anyway by people who I thought were friends) but other unexpected punch in the gut over and over again fallout that is killing me.
it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?
ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?
ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!
Yes 100%. But not only lazy parents but lazy spouses.
Being I JW can be very toxic to the relationship you have with your wife or husband.
You are brainwashed to not concentrate on your marriage but on meetings and service and bla bla bla.
This can only be done for the sake of your relationship.
So what I have seen over and over again, is couples how to grow apart without even knowing it.
Instead of seeing problems and issues and dealing with them as your marriage progresses, you ignore them, put them on hold, think how wonderful your mate will be in paradise, but NEVER work on the issues you have.
Always look at it as not wanting things to impact your relationship with Jah and the congregation.
It has brought so much pain.
lately i've been thinking over how far i've come over the last 2.5 years since leaving the cult.
when i first left i remember not knowing who i really was and what my beliefs and values were.
previously my values and beliefs were dictated to me the the governing body in watchtower magazines.. i'm politically active, being a member of a political party and i'm even considering running in my local election in a few years.. when it comes to religion, im an atheist who has little time for superstition and "god did it" answers to complex questions.
Good topic. I will think about it and reply.
some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.
what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.
would you still believe in a creator?.
Venus - How convenient.