FYI - Raven you have the right to know anyone who accuses you of anything.
So don't stand for an anonymous person if it comes down to you actually wanting to meet with them or they moving forward with any punitive action.
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
FYI - Raven you have the right to know anyone who accuses you of anything.
So don't stand for an anonymous person if it comes down to you actually wanting to meet with them or they moving forward with any punitive action.
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
DON'T GO!
Don't play into their game.
Don't give them power over you.
Don't assign them power or authority or credibility.
Ignoring them is the best way to say that they don't matter.
gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.
made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.
of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.
You think it's admirable to use emotional blackmail and use the tricks any charismatic cult leader or Ad Man uses to get people to feel or to do what they don't want to do?
Remember their proposed hope is based on doing whatever the GB tells you to do including not living a normal life. That is not hope worthy of a human.
Also, for many time is running out on when there will be no amount of Overlapping Generations to get push this Cult forward.
Then what do all these people with a false hope that kept them from productive lives and enriching human relationships do?
But they have no problem getting anyone with a degree to go to Bethel to help them in the MANY areas you must have a Satanic Diploma for - like Lawyers - Engineers - Doctors...
At least they are not Hypocrites.
i am starting to get to the boiling point, to make a long story short, i am getting hounded from alot of family and elder visits.
i sorta put a halt on the elder visits, but the family is starting in on me now.
anyway to get back to topic, what scripture is it that says something to the affect of that do not judge how some celebrate there customs or beliefs or something like that?.
Island Man - not sure how that helps if you are actually talking to elders.
[spoiler: pokemon is an invitation to communication with or possession by demons because... well... pokemon comes from demons.
so... i was looking through different questions on quora, and i noticed one that read, "is pokemon demonic?
" i was interested in seeing what people have to say, especially that not so long ago there was a thread (or a post in a thread?
Of course its demonic!
Think about it - you only see THEM when you get this "game" somehow transmitted to you invisibly through the air! Only Jehober has the right to beam messages to the GB that way.
Also you need this Magic Box in your hand to play it.
And Nobody else around you see those things!
MAN THIS IS WORSE THAN SMURFS!!!!
Exorcist anyone!
i am starting to get to the boiling point, to make a long story short, i am getting hounded from alot of family and elder visits.
i sorta put a halt on the elder visits, but the family is starting in on me now.
anyway to get back to topic, what scripture is it that says something to the affect of that do not judge how some celebrate there customs or beliefs or something like that?.
Yes all of Romans 14 is a Conversation Stopper in that case.
It is a pretty clear LEAVE ME ALONE, and Jesus is the one telling you this.
Its a good one to read in full.
so one of the many stupid articles deals with getting answers from the bible.. 1st question is about prayer.. ---would you say that he answers the prayers of .
some people.
what the bible says.
OUTLAW - what are you saying? That god should take care of larger issues before answering prayers for someone to have a good call out in service?
Get your priorities straight! :)
so one of the many stupid articles deals with getting answers from the bible.. 1st question is about prayer.. ---would you say that he answers the prayers of .
some people.
what the bible says.
So one of the many stupid articles deals with getting answers from the bible.
1st question is about Prayer.
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WOULD YOU SAY THAT HE ANSWERS THE PRAYERS OF . . .
Everyone
Some people
No one
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
“Jehovah is near to all . . . who call on him in truth.”—Psalm 145:18.
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So...
Can someone tell me how that scripture answers that multiple choice question?
I know when I was a kid I sometimes would ask for a toy - and though my mom heard my plea, and she was "near" me physically and as a loving parent - I did not get the toy.
Is the word "near" in the bible have the secret meaning of "I answer prayers of Jehobers Bitnesses"?
in the august broadcast bro splane explains this point deeper.. when the brothers are sitting together and joyfully speaking about clarification of jw belief, they often encounter and deal with that "domino-effect" when one scripture has effects on others.
so all changes are carefully considered before they come into print, one after the other but late.. lately he mentions the "godfathers" brother jaracz , barr as good examples of reading the bible progressivly, they were very progressive at there time.
what ever this could mean he did not explain it?.
Thats such BS (surprising right) what domino effect? What dominoes are involved exactly?