ttdtt

Joined

• started 39 topics
• posted 2,367 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by ttdtt

• 
  18

  Where is the proof?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that the governing body claim to be "god's representatives" and the "faithful and discreet slave" that dispenses spiritual food..... but where is the proof?.

  according to the bible (if we just for a moment take it as a reliable source), all of god's representatives in the past furnished proof of their appointment - not just self referential claims or statements.. for instance, moses and aaron performed miracles before pharaoh (such as the snake staffs.).

  other prophets performed signs and miracles such as making the sun stand still, healing sick people, making walls fall down, etc etc.... even jesus performed miracles as proof of his divine appointment!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  Well the have ALWAYS been right!

  ...

  Except when they are wrong.
• 
  20

  I'm giving up in 2017! (More steps in my fading)

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i joined this site at the beginning of this year, i was serving as an uber-zealous regular pioneer and ms in a foreign congregation where the need is greater.

  i was giving public talks and having parts at regional conventions.

  had started to have doubts but i hadn't time to focus on them, i simply was overcharged with so many activities and things to do.. i started by quitting pioneering but couldn't think i would give further steps for a long time.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  Skepsis - Good for you!

  That is a giant step for you. FYI it doesn't get easier but hang in there.

  You will face many challenges, moments of confusion, sadness, and worry.

  It's all worth it to not be part of a devious cult!

  We are all here to help!
• 
  11

  Noah's shuttle ferry. A biblical defender's excuse?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we just realised that everyone has had it wrong!

  the bible even got it wrong.. noah didn't build an ark that stopped in one place.

  no my friends, it was actually more of a shuttle ferry that had multiple stops on its journey.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  OneEyedJoe - its like shooting fish in a barrel:)
• 
  6

  The End is Coming. The Divorce Rate is Going Up. Except it Isn't....

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so one of the things witnesses have been saying for years is how marriage is under attack, typically marrying the word "soaring" with the words "divorce" and "rate".. here are some metrics that suggest that for those who do get married in england and wales this assertion is not actually correct.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40524156.

  sure there are less marriages than there used to be and more people cohabiting but it does throw some water on the argument that the sky is falling in as far as marriage is concerned..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  One of my last appearances on STAGE included me telling the Congo to make sure their facts were straight when they gave talks or were in service.

  On of them was about divorce.
  I pointed out the rates in a number of countries, some who have divorce in single digits.
  Also pointed to the actual rate in the USA and how that statistic needs to be understood.
  
  Mentioned how even in our congregation a few people have been divorced 3 times and how that changes the statistics:)
  

  The point was to try and get people to think - and not just vomit from the mouth.

  And check their sources.

  It was fulfilling to do even though it fell on the deaf ears of a cult.
  
  
• 
  15

  Lack of open-mindedness

  by ilikecheese in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of religious folks can have an open-minded discussion about their beliefs without getting defensive.

  some can actually consider things from another point of view and point out the validity in the other person's point.

  obviously, a lot of jws may just be scared to think/speak in a semi-detrimental way about their religion.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  Religion tends to make people closed-minded. They are often told they have the only way to god (truth).
  Most religion has historically put all human relations and actions into Black & White context. Not good for fellow feeling.

  JW are amongst the most closed minded, not because they are religions, but because they are a CULT that force feeds its members to NOT think, to NOT investigate, to NOT ask questions, to NOT be open to anything anyone says but the GB.

  I hate all religion by the way.
• 
  34

  Can the GB be directed by Holy Spirit and at the same time be not inspired ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes god directs our writings but they're not inspired, so gods directions are staggered and overlapping , so the genuine innocent believing jw has a wonderful life of overlapping bullshit.

  so next time you meet a jw priest ask them what is the difference between being directed and inspired, then i promise you will hear first hand an example of overlapping bull..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  Well Yes.. and No..
• 
  12

  The Biblical reasoning behind a judicial comitee?

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering today what i would say if i ever were to be called to a judicial trial in the congregation, and my conclusion was that i didn't really have any biblical defense against it.

  so i was wondering what you guys would recommend.

  it seems far fetched to me that the bible condones a 1 vs 3 biased trial (where you already have been judged beforehand), instead of one where you have a unbiased judge, a defense and a prosecutor/accuser.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  So the calling on the Older men to Grease your head with oil isn't a exact parallel of the modern Judicial Committee?

  Shocking!
  
  
• 
  17

  Hello from Illinois

  by Rob206 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i come from a catholic background, but most recently had been with the churches of christ.

  i have contacted my local congregation and will be talking with someone tomorrow, hopefully setting a study up for next week.

  i want to study scripture, but also want to immerse myself in everything jw publishes.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  Hello Rob,

  Just to let you know it will be hard for you to immerse yourself in everything JW publishes.

  They will only give you what is currently out now.
  This is because the many many root dogma has changed through the years.
  Books that were published as Truth just a few years ago are know eliminated, for new Truth.

  See this happens all the time with the Watchtower.
  Go to Wikapedia and check their history of false prophecies, changing policy and changing beliefs.

  JWFacts.com is great since it puts it all in one place too.

  Final comment - RUN WHILE YOU CAN!
• 
  32

  After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.

  by Fader812 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.

  what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?

  do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  One thing being a JW did real well is show you how all other religions are False - so when you find out JWs are false, well - why would you go to one of the others.
• 
  30

  Loyalty - Part of the New Personality (S-341a-18-E 5/17)

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  loyalty—part of the new personality (s-341a-18-e 5/17).

  note to the circuit overseer:.

  use this outline for the tuesday service talk from september 2017 through february 2018. you will need to prepare your own 30-minute service talk for use after the watchtower study.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  ttdtt

  The Elders who out of jealousy, incompetence, and who prefer ass kissing over doing whats right - stabbed me in the back will hear this and be happy to use it to make themselves feel better. "I was to smart for my own good"