1: If Service was Optional - 90% would stop within 6 months.
2: If meetings were Optional - in 6 months they could group a circuit together in 1 hall for meetings.
3: If DFing stopped - the religion would end within a few years.
witnessing would cease, would it flow on to attendance numbers at meetings and then total decimation of the church..
1: If Service was Optional - 90% would stop within 6 months.
2: If meetings were Optional - in 6 months they could group a circuit together in 1 hall for meetings.
3: If DFing stopped - the religion would end within a few years.
i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.
i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.
i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.
Phoebe
I agree with what you are saying too. I would extend it to the 90s, at least till 95 when the whole Generation thing started to really change.
This last decade, so many JWs are depressed and unhappy an stressed that (as I used) the anxiety, depression card is being played by many Elders/MSs to get out of those roles. And it always works.
The hall I left had more people on Meds, and more divorces in total than the average population.
Besides ALL the failed timeline promises coming and going, a big factor that you alluded to is the CONSTANT message from the top that - YOU CAN NEVER DO ENOUGH - what ever you do is NEVER GOOD ENOUGH.
You get 10hrs a month - no you should get 15 - you get 15 you should aux pio - you aux pio really you should regular - you regular you should sever where the need is great.... and on and on at every level.
It is a religion that (unlike just about every other one) SUCKS YOUR SOUL DRY - instead of giving you a LIFT and a positive outlook - and joy. Guess that's why it is a cult.
I knew old GB like Sydlik and Barber. They were good guys, loving, kind, not mean or over bearing.
Sydlik would say - go do something fun, enjoy our life. He liked to watch Football and have a Scotch.
Those kind do not exist anymore.
And the vast majority of COs are just giant ass#oles now. We had a real string of COs that just Beat down the congregation.
I remember being a CO Pio meeting (I was an elder) and after this one meeting I had to console many of the pioneer sisters because the CO made them all feel like S#it.
This is what will eventually KILL the org and make it dwindle.
i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.
i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.
i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.
I dont know, I spent many happy years as a JW.
I dont think it is fair to paint them all with that brush.
Especial in the 70s and 80s and 90s, when it still seemed like the JW timeline was working and the end was in sight.
But I get what you are saying.
will they draw a new name out of a hat or do a kiss test i don't know..
Never - they will want to keep POWER concentrated as much as they can.
That's why they decided the FDS was them and not ALL the anointed.
12 have empathy for unbelieving relatives.
while we may be overjoyed about the bible truths we have learned, our relatives may mistakenly believe that we have been tricked or have become part of a cult.
we should show empathy by trying to see things from their viewpoint and by listening carefully to discern their real concerns.
Maybe it will have the effect of some JWs reading "apostate" info they would get from the family that is Terrified they are in a Cult.
most jws i know claim they are happy being in the great crowd.
they'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.. heaven is a place they can't relate to, a place where they don't expect their friends and loved ones to be.. so why are more and more jws claiming to be of the anointed?.
aren't they looked down upon as if they are crazy, proud, ignorant, or engaging in apostate thinking?.
The question of WHY there are more now really hasn't been answered.
The reason is that when they changed the GENERATIONS - and have the new Overlapping Generations - and did away with the number already been sealed - it was an opportunity that people are taking (and that's how many of the comments above fit in)
we all know that the governing body claim to be "god's representatives" and the "faithful and discreet slave" that dispenses spiritual food..... but where is the proof?.
according to the bible (if we just for a moment take it as a reliable source), all of god's representatives in the past furnished proof of their appointment - not just self referential claims or statements.. for instance, moses and aaron performed miracles before pharaoh (such as the snake staffs.).
other prophets performed signs and miracles such as making the sun stand still, healing sick people, making walls fall down, etc etc.... even jesus performed miracles as proof of his divine appointment!.
Well the have ALWAYS been right!
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Except when they are wrong.
when i joined this site at the beginning of this year, i was serving as an uber-zealous regular pioneer and ms in a foreign congregation where the need is greater.
i was giving public talks and having parts at regional conventions.
had started to have doubts but i hadn't time to focus on them, i simply was overcharged with so many activities and things to do.. i started by quitting pioneering but couldn't think i would give further steps for a long time.
Skepsis - Good for you!
That is a giant step for you. FYI it doesn't get easier but hang in there.
You will face many challenges, moments of confusion, sadness, and worry.
It's all worth it to not be part of a devious cult!
We are all here to help!
we just realised that everyone has had it wrong!
the bible even got it wrong.. noah didn't build an ark that stopped in one place.
no my friends, it was actually more of a shuttle ferry that had multiple stops on its journey.
OneEyedJoe - its like shooting fish in a barrel:)