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  Possible leak from Annual Meeting 2018

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm a member on jw talk (until now at least) and have been regularly checking up on their thread regarding the annual meeting.

  there hasn't been a great deal to report on except for this recent post that has been made.

  i may get outed but that's no loss.

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  Such a joke. I guess they do it to keep the R&F in line and interested - but they must know they are spouting BS.

  Don't you think?
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  Belief in God

  by jdash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.

  what made you doubt your faith in god?.

  thanks !.

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  FYI - on my long comment on page 2 there are a few SPELL CHECK errors (I hate when it changes words on me and I don't notice).

  Please forgive that, and I think you can probably figure out what the words should have been.
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  Belief in God

  by jdash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.

  what made you doubt your faith in god?.

  thanks !.

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  For me, being a lover of science, the evidence kept building that made beliefe in god and of course the bible harder and harder to swallow. I don't even know where to begin.

  I NEVER write really long opinions - so please read this:)

  I was always a LOVER of science (even as a kid) but twisted myself into a pretzel with logic to overlook the complete idiocies in the bible and religion when it came to science.

  As an elder, I took all the science & history talks so I could "do them right" and put a spin on them closer to reality but keeping that shell in place protecting my live long religious beliefs.

  Things just got worse, especially with modern science breakthroughs.

  First thing to fall for me was The Flood. I spent years figuring ways and listening to theories on how it was possible. But I concluded that the Flood was as possible as me being the Center for the Bulls, and the QB of the Cowboys at the same time at the age of 48.

  Then all the science that was coming out in the study of the brain. One NPR show talked about a study that was going on that showed that anyone could have their morality totally shut off with a chemical cocktail that just stops the brain from creating some of its hormones. That and other brain stuff (and there was lots of it) showed me that we are just a chemical machine, with NO internet way of changing our behaviour past the specific boundaries each unique person has. So no matter how much you prayed or studied, some people can NOT as the WT states, change their way of life past what their dna will allow. So thats not fair in a GOD world, so there is no god.

  Then Evolution. My trips to the great Museums of Natural History in places like DC and NYC have so much evidence that I could not keep ignoring it. Not lots of evidence, but 10s of millions in each museum. All the stuff I was taught in the "Creation" books was all BS. There are MANY intermediate species fossils found, many many. The BS I would teach from the platform about them, or about the EYE was all misinformation and cherry picking OLD data.

  My god the Big Bang. Now I believed it was true for many decades, and just used the excuse that the old farts in Brooklyn just don't understand it. But the constant drumbeat that it was not real, and all the 1/2 truths about why were so blatantly wrong, it made me to start doubting the source and its honesty about the way it presented information.

  6000 years really? The idea that humans have only been around for 6k years, and that all things were wiped out 4k years ago can only be believed if you live in a cave. I can't believe the stupidity I let slide about the age of the earth, (it could be many thousands of years old) Oh Brother... This could be a book on itself.

  Segue here. As an elder who was used lots on district assembly parts (big ones) had access to all the outlines, and taught at Elder Schools (what a misnomer that is), I got to see SO much of the 1/2 truths, lies, and use of OLD OLD ideas and info and data here. I saw the deliberate misdirection and fancy questioning used to make people doubt what was fact. The false questioning was also horrible. I could not ignore the fact that they were WILLINGLY leading people down a path they must have know was false.

  Also sex. It became so apparent that the way the WT treated sex was just wrong in so many ways. The idea that masterbation, oral, and anal sex was bad just became idiotic. Not only are they not bad, they are 100% normal. Homosexuality also was a turning point. I have a family member who I knew was gay as a little kid. It was no shock what he chose when he grew up. IT WAS NOT A CHOICE, it is who he is. Then the constant harping on Porn, and all of that just became silly and just a means of controlling people. Imagine my shock when I found out that about 10% of the animal kingdom display bi or homosexual activity. And by the way what do you think dogs are doign when they hump your pillow or leg. DoggyMasterbation, like all animals with a penis.

  Then there was always a WAR on something. Smurfs, Disney, Star Trek, Vampires, Zombies. Seems like god was really threatened by Fake things. It was maddening that as an elder who wanted to really help people, all we were talking about was what someone watched on TV or saw on their computer.

  And just like in your congregation, people were dealing with REAL problems they could use help with. I knew of very few GOOD marriages in our hall. Most were all fake held by the glue of being busy in the "truth" or fear of the big DF. I wanted to and tried to help people in what they really were looking for, but it was like punching the ocean.

  I could go on and on like many of you, but this sums it up.

  Thanks for reading it. It feels good to get it out sometimes.
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  OCT. 9 2018 US Department of Justice Now Investigating WatchTower for Extremist Activity

  by keinlezard in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/oct-9-2018-us-department-of-justice-now-investigating-watchtower-for-extremist-activity.

  i trust rick fearon ... but it seem to me a so big thing ... that i can't really believe it !!!.

  and the reason of doj , seem to strange : "jw purchased fire arms" ???

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  TOTAL BS - he should write articles for the AWAKE and WT.
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  King of The North: circular news top?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  friends,.

  with the circular speading of my satire tread about the annual meeting on many different ways, even informal across the jw organization, i'm pretty sure that the news about russia (new king of the north) is not real.. there was a moment i thought that it was a coïncidence that incoming messages mentioned it also.. now i suppose it started all with my op, went trending through the organization (even through bethel belgium) and became a story on it's own.. this is not realy my style and i'm not proud of it.. g..

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  I would be shocked if the EVER put specifics in print like that again.

  The ridiculous predictions and statements get put out in talks which much easier to walk back than in print.
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  Sears has finally filed for bankruptcy

  by _Morpheus in

  1. social
  2. current

  and que the flawed comparisons to the wt in 3...2....

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  On an off-chance, he finally got one and described this "amazing store" where you pick what you want from a book and then someone goes and gets it from storage and brings it to you.

  We had those in NJ in the 70s and 80s - the all went out of business before 1990.

  As a kid, they were fun and exciting. I got my first electronic calculator that way.
  It was solar powered - super cool back then.
  I still have it as a keepsake.
  
  
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  New Ezekiel Book Clarification

  by johnamos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/pure-worship/summary-of-clarifications/.

  is christendom the antitype of ancient apostate jerusalem?.

  previous understanding: unfaithful jerusalem is a prophetic type of christendom.

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  eyeuse2badub - no one can explain 3 things that make up the religion.

  1. 1st century Governing Body.

  2. 1914 as an important year and identified in the bible.

  3. Overlapping generations.
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  There will be no fifth generation of jw’s in my family.

  by longgone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’m happy to say that, yet as always with the wts there is a price to be paid.

  i’ll explain how this is working out.there’s a new development in the family that’s making the final break possible, and sadly is where the penalty for leaving is going to happen.

  only one person of all the jw family history is left that could start a fifth, he’s my nephew.

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  Sucks.
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  New Ezekiel Book Clarification

  by johnamos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/pure-worship/summary-of-clarifications/.

  is christendom the antitype of ancient apostate jerusalem?.

  previous understanding: unfaithful jerusalem is a prophetic type of christendom.

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  BTY - when the WT says "Clarification" it really means, we just completely changed our mind, and by the way the reasoning will as flim-flam as ever.

  But we like to use that language because it sounds like it is just "a little tweak" and the chariot is moving forward at top speed!
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  It's a shame isn't it?

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... that this forum, which is such an amazing resource for those needing support for their journey from watchtower's clutches has an increasingly present representation of unreasoning politically charged loudmouths..

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  Agreed freddo - it is not why I came here in the first place.