if not, were they incouraged to "forgive" the loan?.
Just to chime in, my father once loaned money to them under the conditional loan system and he received it back with no problem as soon as he asked.
Interested Observer said this:
No, but one thing that I did find interesting is that in the loan documents, it states that, if the lender dies, the loan is converted to a gift to WBTS. Basically it prevents family members of the lender, or the lender's estate, from requesting repayment of the loan.
Is this really the case, can anyone confirm this?
just got a google alert regarding the bossert that was printed in the new york times, hope somebody hear knows how to do the cut and paste for that.. was it a well known fact that the bossert is free for all jdubs visiting the nyc area or does the article have it wrong, i've always been aware of the bossert but thought it was part of the residential buildings for the bethelites.. .
I seem to remember that hotel type housing was available for visiting witnesses for a <wink,wink> donation... free but not free
jehovah's witnesses' land sell-off has brooklyn dreaming bigcrain's new york business - amanda fung-1 hour ago.
at stake are 34 mint-condition properties in brooklyn heights and dumbo that the jehovah's witnesses spent decades accumulating and now are considering ...it's always has been about the money...they talk about pristine real estate and the excellent pool of skilled craftsmen/women .
hey what about the paradise for my family 4 generations that slaved?.
"a swelling crowd"
Is this the same as the great crowd they keep talking about? It is all starting to make sense now...
they were married for some 51 years.
you cannot stand up against them in battle.
you cannot stand up against him in battle.
How did you get my notes from the big meeting? That's exactly the notes I took!
hi guys.
i've been plucking away at a podiobook about going from jw to atheist and why jws should think about how they treat xjws.
(this will be bigger than my 15 page essay from a while back.
Thanks slimboy for the link, I had not seen it before.
This probably has been discussed here before, but here are a few of the details:
The report is at http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report-religious-landscape-study-full.pdf (210 pages)
It is based on telephone surveys of 35,000 people in the US, of whom 215 were current Jehovah's Witnesses. They were asked, among many other questions, their current denomination and the denomination they were raised in as a child. The figure of 37% would be calculated from the responses to those two questions.
The report contains this statement on page 30 :
"Two of the religious groups with the lowest retention rates are Jehovah’s Witnesses and Buddhists.
Only slightly more than a third (37%) of adults who were raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses still
identify themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Half of all of those who were raised as Buddhists
(50%) are still Buddhists."
There is a chart on page 30 showing how this 37% compares with other religions.
the local needs was about low fs time in the cong.
about 1/3 of publishers are averaging 4 hours per month.
that is unprecedented in our cong, a usually 'zealous' congregation.. my take is this: if you don't believe it yourself, why are you going to waste valuable time telling others?
Wow, those numbers are telling. Has it always been that way, or is that a new trend? Here in 'Bethel Territory' there was NEVER 1/3 of the cong. getting 4 hrs, less than 5% I would say.
In answer to your question Breakfast, they post these figures on an information board at the back of the hall. I never noticed it until about a year or so ago. The figures have been similar to this each time I have looked at it. It seems unusual that they post these figures... I don't remember it anywhere else I have been.
the local needs was about low fs time in the cong.
about 1/3 of publishers are averaging 4 hours per month.
that is unprecedented in our cong, a usually 'zealous' congregation.. my take is this: if you don't believe it yourself, why are you going to waste valuable time telling others?
Here is the hours breakdown posted in the local hall (US, Midwest, semi-rural area) for August, 2011
130 total pubs of whom:
10 reg pioneers
3 Aux pioneers
10 no report this month (good for you! Keep up the good work)
35 report 1-5 hours
35 report 5-9 hours
37 report 10+ hours
Of the 130, 21 are irregular.
The average for the month of August for the non-pioneer publishers was 9.1 hours (slightly higher than the 8.3 hours 3-month average for the same group).
Inactives don't show up at all in these figures.
There you go, the 1/3 1/3 1/3 assessment seems to accurately describe this congregation.
so there i was at the circuit assembly sunday morning with my eyes glazed over as usual when all of a sudden, bam!
a demo with two brothers talking about the new overlapping generation teaching.
the reason it took me by surprise was because it occured during the second talk of the sunday morning symposium, "sanctify god's name by your speech".
Maybe we'll get lucky and they will overlap both days of the CA and we only have to go one day. Ya think?
i would like to think of myself as an academic.
im starting my second degree and i enjoy research.
when i see a statement backed up by references and support from a credible source, sometimes i get excited.
I had to chuckle at paragraphs 11 and 12 (p. 26 of the 7/15/2011 WT) where they used the word 'generation' 5 times in the space of just a few sentences, each time using it in the conventional way "...that generation gradually died out and was replaced by a generation that 'did not know Jehovah...etc'". No mention of there being an overlapping generation. It is astonishing that the typical witness reads this and doesn't see the contradiction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orrokevgpcm&feature=channel_video_title.
I'm with sizemik, the figures in the background seem to be moving normally, and if there were frames removed it would be evident in the background. The video is not noticably altered that I can see, except that TJ was speaking out of both sides of his mouth, and somehow they removed that from the video... just kidding
