I have a copy of 'Eight Translation New Testament' which contains at the end a section called 'Guide to the Ancient Manuscripts', by Philip W. Comfort. This is my go-to guide to understanding the different NT readings, and why certain verses are omitted. The verses in John 7:53 - 8:11 are given about half a page of explanation. Basically it says the story of the adulterous woman is an addition in the text from an oral tradition. None of the oldest NT manuscripts contain the verses, and it is believed to be an oral tradition that eventually found its way into the Latin Vulgate, and later into the Textus Receptus. Nearly all modern translations will have a footnote about the verses, if not omit them entirely.
dropoffyourkeylee
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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus
by I_love_Jeff ini understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.
jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?
it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?
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Giant Pyramids & Sphinxes Found Bermuda Triangle
by mind blown ingiant pyramids and sphinxes found in the bermuda trianglehttp://altering-perspectives.com/2013/06/giant-pyramids-and-sphinxes-found-in.html.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Oh for Pete's sake, not this again. I used to have a high school chum in the 70's who believed all the pseudo science of the time... von Daniken, Bermuda triangle, Atlantis theories, the works. Because of him I read most of the books, and this story of underwater pyramids and structures goes back to that time and genre. There is not a shred of scientific evidence.
Can archaeological works be found under water? Yes of course, and there have been some remarkable finds in recent years. But I say this story is a hoax until some scientific evidence is produced.
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Is this CA experience mind control or worship of man?
by hoser inthis goes back some time several years perhaps even 10 or so.. .
i was at the circuit assembly and during the announcements the chairman said you may sit if you wish this will take some time to read this.
i forget what it was about but everyone sat down except the district overseer and his wife.. then the people sitting close by the do started to get up to stand again and there was this group of about 100 who were standing around the do.
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dropoffyourkeylee
There is little doubt that the circuit overseers and district overseers get a power trip out of their position, but speaking for myself, I would have probably stood as well. Setting for so long listening to those boring talks, if you get a chance to stand for a while, take it. I've been known to leave the place and go out to the local McDonald's for a coffee. The assemblies are such a joke and waste of a good day.
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Watchtower schools--why the consolidation?
by wannaexit infirst there was the ministerial training school ( mts), then changed to the school for single brothers.
most recently the school for christian couples (replacing gilead).
all of a sudden news comes out the all these schools are consolidated under one umbrella: the evangelizing school --open to single brothers, single sisters, married couples all the way up to 65 years of age.. i wonder as to the motive behind all these changes this year..
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dropoffyourkeylee
Just an observation, the Gilead School DID occasionally admit single sisters as well as single brothers, though the vast majority were couples. I knew one sister who went to Gilead in the 70's and was assigned to a country in S America. Turns out she married a local brother and left the missionary work in just a few years, but stayed there in that country.
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Watchtower schools--why the consolidation?
by wannaexit infirst there was the ministerial training school ( mts), then changed to the school for single brothers.
most recently the school for christian couples (replacing gilead).
all of a sudden news comes out the all these schools are consolidated under one umbrella: the evangelizing school --open to single brothers, single sisters, married couples all the way up to 65 years of age.. i wonder as to the motive behind all these changes this year..
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dropoffyourkeylee
In the old days (70's and 80's) there were many applicants for Gilead and special pioneer service. Many of the people I knew personally were really top notch. They would come in with a lot of enthusiasm and were a boon to the congregation. Now they seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Example: In a congregation near where I live (midwest rural US) an MTS grad in his mid 20's was brought in a few months ago. Here are some of the things I have heard about him.
He turned down an offer from one of the brothers for free rent.
His mother came with him to pick out an apartment, which she pays for.
He has supposedly a degree in mechanical engineering, but he has never worked in the field.
He seldom participates in the ministry with the congregation, but does most of his ministry writing letters from his apartment.
He has a live-in cousin for companionship, but doesn't associate much with the congregation.
After 3-4 months he still does not have a job, and insists that he wants a 9-5 weekday job.
He says he can pioneer with a fulltime job because he has done it before, but he is still not working anywhere. I guess his mom supports him.
He gives talks in the meetings, and that is about it. The congregation members have been saying 'He isn't helping much'.
Since I haven't met him personally maybe I have it wrong, but one thing is certain; he doesn't have the respect of the congregation members.
What kind of applicants are they getting for MTS? Go figure.
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Nov 20, 2013 Letter to All Congregations (RE: Phillipines Disaster Relief)
by Gayle in"however, it would be appreciated if such donations are made without restrictions as to where and how the funds may be used.
" additionally, at this time, there is no need for donations of food, clothing, or other items.
if such needs arise in the future, you will be notified accordingly.
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dropoffyourkeylee
It is completely understandable that collecting physical things like cans of food, clothing, etc wouldn't do a lot of good, as the WT society doesn't have a way to transport those things halfway around the world. But the thrust of the letter is that if someone wants to donate some money specifically to the affected Witnesses in the Phillipines, the Society is saying they won't promise the money will get there. They will spend the money for whatever they want, though they seem to imply that if would be used for relief somewhere. But since there is no accountability, as Joe pointed out, one cannot be sure that any donation goes to relief.
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Sept 15 Study Watchtower page 19 par 10
by jonahstourguide inconversation with elder.. m why do fds feel the need to quote a plymouth brethren elder, and add to his quote to support a teaching point?.
e what are you talking about.
m vine,,, you know vines dictionary quote paragraph 10 for this weeks consideration,,, i'll show you .
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dropoffyourkeylee
I any college student used the WT as a guide of how to reference quoted sources, he or she would undoubtedly fail. The WT Society just doesn't seem to understand that when you make a quotation, you must give the full citation with edition, page number etc.
Vine's is a standard reference work in English that has been printed and reprinted many times, and can still be purchased new. Of course nearly all reference works on the Bible were written by people who are or were members of the clergy in their respective religions.
The hypocrisy of the WT is that they will cherry-pick a quotation to support their point and refer to the source as a 'scholar', but then in another place will tear down that same person or the religion to which he belongs as Babylonish Christendom.
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Suggested Contribution Rate 1 Cor 16:2
by jonahstourguide inin case you were in doubt, the suggested weekly rate is.
au$50.
page 8 nov 15 2013 study edition .
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dropoffyourkeylee
The accounts report in the local congregation was read for the month of October (midwest rural US).
130 pubs, about 100 attend most meetings, let's say 90 or so of those 100 attendees have a new bible.
They usually donate to the world wide word about 400-500 a month, but in October they donated 1300, so one can infer that they put in about 900 to cover the new Bible.
900/90 = $10, which is an estimate of how much each one in this congregation put in for the new NWT.
Of course there are other places and ways to make donations, but it gives an idea of the paltry amount most are putting in.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Watch out for that manna from heaven!
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Announcement: Schools for Couples and Single Brothers replaced by School for 'everyone'
by dropoffyourkeylee ini know this was noted earlier:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/266186/3/the-big-announcement-this-week#.uoaoe_yo5dg.
but it was officially announced today that the school for couples and the school for single brothers were being combined with the new twist that single sisters would be allowed also.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I know this was noted earlier:
but it was officially announced today that the School for Couples and the School for Single Brothers were being combined with the new twist that Single sisters would be allowed also. In addition, the age limits for all was increased to 65, with the stipulation that anyone between 50-65 were required to have their income and medical needs taken care of. All of any age would be required to be willing to go wherever the WT assigns them.
This is no longer a rumor, but is official.
I don't know whether this is good news or bad, in either case the WT society is changing tactics.