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  My Favorite Book About Bethel by Randy Watters

  by Dogpatch in

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  my favorite bethel bookrandy watters.

  vignettes of this famous author's life, as reviewed from her out-of-print book, "visions of glory--a history and a memory of jehovah's witnesses" (new york: simon and schuster, 1978).

  barbara gave exclusive rights to her book to randy just months before she passed away in 2002. the whole book is available as a pdf download from the free minds store.. .

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  I'm not sure Randy is active anymore, at least on this site.
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  An offer in exchange for some help.

  by JeffT in

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  as some of you might recall, i self-published a novel last fall.

  i hoped “armageddon’s disciples” would be successful as my previous works (an alternate history trilogy) had done well.

  not so with “disciples.” i’ve sold a total of nine copies.

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  Jeff, I have completed the book. I'll send you a pm
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  When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?

  by slimboyfat in

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  does anyone know what year?

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  Thanks, I was totally unaware of this, though I was attending as a child since the early sixties and I thought I had heard of everything.

  I suggest they dropped the practice about the time the NWT supplanted the KJ and ASV in JW use. The NWT really butchered the poetic cadence, I doubt they would have wanted to recite 'let your name be sanctified' in unison.
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  When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?

  by slimboyfat in

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  does anyone know what year?

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  News to me. I’ve read a lot of the Bible Student material pre-1916 and I don’t recall any discussion of it. Probably went the way of the Chatauqua Salute and the Love Feast.
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  TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

  big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

  4440 braeburn road.

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  saying "What would you say if I told you that we have princes here among us today!?

  I heard the same story from an old time witness I knew in the '80s.
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  TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

  big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

  4440 braeburn road.

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  Thanks for finding this Terry!

  A couple of observations/ comments:

  I didn't know TIME was around back in 1930, but sure enough, it started in '23.

  The TIME author states that there were 1 million members of the IBSA and WT back then. Maybe that's what Rutherford told him, but I think by any measure it was nowhere near 1M in 1930.

  TIME categorized the Bible Students as a 'California Cult' even then. Pretty smart!
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

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  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  The screenshot linked by Atlantis also contains the words 'cloudy envelope', which suggests that the previous page of the quotation was a discussion of the then-believed vapor canopy. They believed at the time (and into the '60s) that the predeluge earth was surrounded by a canopy of water, sometimes called the Vailian theory, which supposedly created a hothouse effect on the earth. Totally discredited scientifically, it was popular in the 1800's as it seemed to support the flood ideas.
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  I'm glad to know that the Venus-Dinos are happy. That makes my day!
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  Fancy dress parties banned...anyone else?

  by Witness 007 in

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  we had 2 fancy dress parties in our congregation...before the ban.

  it was the best fun we ever had together.

  problem was some came as pirates with swords!

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  There was a formal dress party in this area (midwest US) in the '90s. There were several young ladies who were exceptionally good looking and it seemed to draw the young guys like honey. Some drove upward of 500 miles. I wasn't there, but it caused quite a stir and a crackdown on open invitation parties of any sort.
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Wow, that is really out there.

  One thing about the Golden Age quotations that I have noticed is that some of the most outrageous ideas found their way into the Golden Age. Whether they were official WT dogma, commonly believed ideas among the JW/Bible Students, or simply the rogue rant of the Golden Age editor (Clayton Woodworth), I would like to know.