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  'I have great freeness of speech toward you.' 🤐 But remember, Saint Paul never wrote that at Bethel.😉

  by was a new boy in

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  'i have great freeness of speech toward you.'.

  2 corinthians 7:4. i had snuck into bethel with absolute perfect timing, had been taught that armageddon was likely coming either in 1974 or 1975, probably in sept. or oct. .

  n h knorr invited me by letter, asking me to show up monday august 12, or was it the 19th?.

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  The WT has their own WT-speak, and to them 'freeness of speech' means the the glib recitation of the party line. It is NOT freedom of speech in the sense to verbalize what's on your mind; what you really think.

  It is ironic that the WT used the US First Amendment right of freedom of speech to defend themselves in numerous lawsuits in the last century. In fact the JW cases helped define US laws and the application of the first amendment and their cases are studied in law schools. But within their own religion they don't apply freedom of speech in the same way. Say the wrong thing and you are penalized.
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  Watchtower falsification of its history

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i received an email with the following information that is worth sharing.. the 2011 yearbook goes to great lengths to elevate the truthfulness of watchtower information in even minor details, and criticise information from other sources.

  so it is telling that the 2010 "jehovah's witnesses - faith in action, part 1" has omitted an important element of their history when re-enacting the 1922 cedar point convention.. under the heading "tracing all things with accuracy" the 2011 yearbook states: .

  "jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics "their food at the proper time.

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  I vaguely remember this thread from 12 years back. I would agree that the flags were deliberately omitted. No doubt the US flag issue was part of the decision, though I have been to many assemblies where a US flag was draped up somewhere and nobody paid much attention to it.

  The video though would be intended for a worldwide audience, where the majority of JWs nowadays are not in the US. So I wonder if the omission of the flags has more to do with appealing to non-US viewers than with the JW flag issue.
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  Another new missing part of the Bible found

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22011278/new-bible-chapter-hidden-verses-discovered-erased-scribe/.

  i wonder what the remaining members of the gb will make of this?.

  i excited to read all of this once it’s released and compare with the rest of mathew.

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  Sounds like it is a palimpsest, which is a re-used parchment. The first use of this parchment was of the gospel of Matthew in Syriac, then it was erased or otherwise rubbed out, then the parchment used over again for another purpose. The underlying writing can be rediscovered. Several of the NT manuscripts that are used for textual analysis are palimpsests; at least one at St Catherine's was a palimpsest. I would characterize this as a neat find, contributing to textual criticism, but to headline it as a 'New Bible Chapter' containing 'hidden verses' is surely misleading.
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  What is Greg Stafford up to these days?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you may have been wondering: what is greg stafford up to these days?

  lots of interesting things, is the answer.

  exposing the false trinity doctrine, of course, but keeping on top of other issues too.

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  Wow, just wow
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  Betty Georges - The Female Helper to the Governing Body

  by MillennialDawn in

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  betty georges is listed as a helper to the governing body service committee, according to this page on the website: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body-jw-helpers/.

  anybody know anything about her?.

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  My prediction: The WT will eventually open up elder and MS to women. They HAVE to recognize the equality of women. Their stand is becoming more ridiculous with each passing year
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  Zoom Ministry

  by XBEHERE in

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  2. friends

  i saw this post on ex-jw reddit so i thought i'd bring here.

  zoom service, what are your observations/opinions of it?.

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  The irony is that the JW can 'count the time' for writing letters (quite ineffective actually, in reaching anyone), but if they do something in the community which actually helps people; volunteer in a soup kitchen, help orphans or widows with life tasks, etc. they can't count the time and are even discouraged from any such activity.
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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  What I see is, ‘It’s time for you to walk away from this damned religion and into the light.’
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  Has Tony been abducted by Aliens?

  by Mit123 in

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  2. scandals

  probably but they’ve sent him back pretty darn quick!

  i have from a very reliable source that he attends one of the poughkeepsie ny congregations.

  i think there are 5 congregations there might be worth paying a visit if anyone lives near there..

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  If aliens abducted him and then returned him, finally we have proof there is intelligence in outer space.
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  JW elders hand book on disfellowshipping removed

  by Leslie in

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  likewise with punko

  Please clarify what is meant by removed
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  Why the name change from Watchtower Bible College of Gilead to Watchtower Bible School of Gilead?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  did too many jehovah's witness kids get curious about wanting to go to a real college?.

  they really don't give an explanation, it's like old light and new light, one reads the new light, and .

  in the spirit of loyalty, the subject gets dropped, and there's no more talk about the old name again.. .

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  Just glancing through the names of the '47 yearbook page shown a few posts back, there are a number of well known Bethelites listed. To me it is clear they were trying to legitimize the Bethelite's claim that they were ministers, even though their job may have been nothing more than running a printing press 40+ hours a week.

  W.E. Van Amburgh - a JW dating back to Rutherford years or before. I think he was a printing plant administer. He may have been on the Board of Directors at some point.

  Clayton J Woodworth - infamous for being the loony editor of Golden Age; before that he was a co-author of The Finished Mystery. This guy was really a crackpot.

  Arthur Worsley - I think he was still living into the '80's, as I heard his name bandied about during that time. I forget the details.

  Richard Wheelock - I don't remember the details, but he was mentioned by Ray Franz in one of his books.