It may seem insurmountable now, but I think that the WT can surely dump 607 BCE whenever they want. For practical purposes 1914 is already gone. The 1919 date, linked to the 1914 chronology can be changed. It's a joke. The typical JW doesn't believe in the 1914 chronology anyway, I would wager. In fact changing 1919 to 1939 would just about coincide with Rutherford's death/last few years. They already kicked ole Chucky to the curb, why not Rutherford too?
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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They have a Cash Flow Problem, only by retaining as many R&F JW's in the rich Countries can they begin to solve the problem of $$$ in some measure.
Phiz, this is exactly what is going on. Passive or semi-passive supporters who have money to donate; this is the segment of the JW population they are trying to retain.
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The self-appointed "slave" said this - in 1935
by BoogerMan inwatchtower august 15th 1935 - "...the greatest of all tribulations mentioned in the scriptures must come after the great multitude appears and must be that which is mentioned by christ jesus as “tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time.” that tribulation period began with the “day of jehovah”, to wit, in 1914, when the war started against satan’s organization in heaven, and reaches the great climax at the time of the battle of armageddon, the great day of god almighty.
110 years - and counting!.
other denominations claim the great tribulation is only going to last for 7 years.
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Rutherford's writing; he liked the phrase 'to wit'
He should have said 'half wit'
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I am not redsetter, here is his message for you
by redsetter2 inyou read this correctly.
as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.
i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.
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At least some percentage of 'Bible Studies' in recent years were what they called 'doorstep studies', where the publisher wouldn't even go inside, but have a recurring return visit that they reported as a study. With the drop in door to door reporting, this type of study has virtually disappeared -
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I am not redsetter, here is his message for you
by redsetter2 inyou read this correctly.
as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.
i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.
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Thanks red 1 and red 2. There is a lot of speculating and guessing going on. Clearly the WT leadership is struggling with legal pressures and membership decline. What will happen is anybody’s guess.
I for one don’t believe there is a ten year, five year, or any year plan; the GB is too stupid for that. They simply react to what they perceive as an immediate threat.
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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I'm still looking for an expanding role for women. It's long overdue.
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Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.
by Phizzy ini am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
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I doubt they have a ten year plan, five year plan, or any plan at all. They just react. I expect more changes pretty soon; practically anything is on the table. I think it would be easier to identify things that they most probably will not change.
What they won't change, in my opinion:
Core doctrines like use of name Jehovah, the name Jehovah's Witnesses, soul sleep, eternal life on earth, non-trinity, war neutrality, general congregation organization (elders, ministerial servants), circuit overseer arrangement, an emphasis on recruitment/preaching, I'm sure I've missed some.
Anything outside these sorts of things is on the table for change.
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Will New Rules Bring JWs Together or Pull Them Apart?
by doinmypart inthere's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.
you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.
but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?
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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!
by WingCommander inyou heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
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dropoffyourkeylee
In my opinion the age of baptism should be raised to the legal age required for entering a contract, which I think is 18 in most US States.
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Former Soviet Country Witnesses who Rebelled Against the GB
by NotFormer ini remember the story going around the traps (here, perhaps?
) a couple of decades ago, about a country formerly behind the iron curtain.
when the soviet union crumbled, the jws were able to re-establish contact with the underground jw movement.
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I concur that it was Romania. I listened to Losch speak about it one assembly. He was instrumental in holding the WT line and getting rid of the ‘apostates’. I got the impression that was where earned his chops and proved his WT loyalty. Ten years later he partakes and presto he’s on the GB