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  Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

  by EdenOne in

  1. social
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  mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

  at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

  single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  News in these parts (midWest US) is that security at Kingdom Halls is going to tighten up (largely due to the Hamburg shooting and others like the recent one in Colorado). They are already posting people at the entrances and have had security cameras up for a while, but supposedly something is going to change very soon. The elders here are going to an informational session today about the new protocols.
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  Witnesses and Consensus of Bible Scholarship

  by Band on the Run in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading the thread on female hatred in the wtbts.

  it seems that for most posters, paul's sayings in books that no reputable scholar now believes paul wrote are preferred over the nonsexist statements he made.

  he named women as important leaders and colleagues.

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  Does watchtower talk about history of canonization of the Bible?

  Not to my knowledge. Back in the day the SI book was used in the ministry school, and there was a bit of discussion about the canon, but that was years ago. There may be something in the Insight volumes, but it is not likely to find an audience in the current WT meetings.
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  Why didn't they just tell people Rutherford needed to move to San Diego?

  by SydBarrett in

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  2. friends

  from wikipedia: "rutherford had reportedly lost the use of one lung from pneumonia suffered during his imprisonment in 1918 and 1919. finding new york's winter weather "impossible", rutherford was encouraged by a doctor to "spend as much time as possible" in a more favorable climate.

  " why not just tell the people exactly what it says above?

  why all the mumbo jumbo about purchasing it for ancient worthies to be resurrected?

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  It was deeded, if I remember correctly, in a trust in the name of Abraham, Moses, and the ancient worthies. A total fabrication, of course, no doubt to evade taxation on the property that was essentially his private residence. They made a point at the time that it funded by 'private donation' rather than using WT funds.
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  'I have great freeness of speech toward you.' 🤐 But remember, Saint Paul never wrote that at Bethel.😉

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  'i have great freeness of speech toward you.'.

  2 corinthians 7:4. i had snuck into bethel with absolute perfect timing, had been taught that armageddon was likely coming either in 1974 or 1975, probably in sept. or oct. .

  n h knorr invited me by letter, asking me to show up monday august 12, or was it the 19th?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The WT has their own WT-speak, and to them 'freeness of speech' means the the glib recitation of the party line. It is NOT freedom of speech in the sense to verbalize what's on your mind; what you really think.

  It is ironic that the WT used the US First Amendment right of freedom of speech to defend themselves in numerous lawsuits in the last century. In fact the JW cases helped define US laws and the application of the first amendment and their cases are studied in law schools. But within their own religion they don't apply freedom of speech in the same way. Say the wrong thing and you are penalized.
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  Watchtower falsification of its history

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i received an email with the following information that is worth sharing.. the 2011 yearbook goes to great lengths to elevate the truthfulness of watchtower information in even minor details, and criticise information from other sources.

  so it is telling that the 2010 "jehovah's witnesses - faith in action, part 1" has omitted an important element of their history when re-enacting the 1922 cedar point convention.. under the heading "tracing all things with accuracy" the 2011 yearbook states: .

  "jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics "their food at the proper time.

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  I vaguely remember this thread from 12 years back. I would agree that the flags were deliberately omitted. No doubt the US flag issue was part of the decision, though I have been to many assemblies where a US flag was draped up somewhere and nobody paid much attention to it.

  The video though would be intended for a worldwide audience, where the majority of JWs nowadays are not in the US. So I wonder if the omission of the flags has more to do with appealing to non-US viewers than with the JW flag issue.
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  Another new missing part of the Bible found

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22011278/new-bible-chapter-hidden-verses-discovered-erased-scribe/.

  i wonder what the remaining members of the gb will make of this?.

  i excited to read all of this once it’s released and compare with the rest of mathew.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Sounds like it is a palimpsest, which is a re-used parchment. The first use of this parchment was of the gospel of Matthew in Syriac, then it was erased or otherwise rubbed out, then the parchment used over again for another purpose. The underlying writing can be rediscovered. Several of the NT manuscripts that are used for textual analysis are palimpsests; at least one at St Catherine's was a palimpsest. I would characterize this as a neat find, contributing to textual criticism, but to headline it as a 'New Bible Chapter' containing 'hidden verses' is surely misleading.
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  What is Greg Stafford up to these days?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you may have been wondering: what is greg stafford up to these days?

  lots of interesting things, is the answer.

  exposing the false trinity doctrine, of course, but keeping on top of other issues too.

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  Wow, just wow
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  Betty Georges - The Female Helper to the Governing Body

  by MillennialDawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  betty georges is listed as a helper to the governing body service committee, according to this page on the website: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body-jw-helpers/.

  anybody know anything about her?.

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  My prediction: The WT will eventually open up elder and MS to women. They HAVE to recognize the equality of women. Their stand is becoming more ridiculous with each passing year
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  Zoom Ministry

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this post on ex-jw reddit so i thought i'd bring here.

  zoom service, what are your observations/opinions of it?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The irony is that the JW can 'count the time' for writing letters (quite ineffective actually, in reaching anyone), but if they do something in the community which actually helps people; volunteer in a soup kitchen, help orphans or widows with life tasks, etc. they can't count the time and are even discouraged from any such activity.
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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  What I see is, ‘It’s time for you to walk away from this damned religion and into the light.’