Russell's belief in soul sleep, rejecting the immortal soul belief, is still around. Also I think his rather unique interpretation of the ransom is mostly intact. The chronology leading to 1914 (not the interpretation of what significance the year might have), is partially still there. That's all I can think of that is mostly the same.
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How Much of Russell and Rutherford is Left?
by NotFormer inrussell is kind of acknowledged as the founder, but rutherford is the one who really made the wt what it is, or at least laid the foundations for what it came to be, today.
how much would someone from that era recognise in the wt today?
what are the big changes that they would see?.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I just looked and it is not under 'News' as it had been previously. Maybe they removed it or maybe it is put in some obscure place difficult to find. In any event, there is an official announcement to be read at the next two meetings.
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2023-10-13-Announcement (Reporting Field Service)
by Atlantis in2023-10-13-announcements (reporting field service).
page 1. https://imgbox.com/96lgsfw4 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/zynoa02m .
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Have to laugh:
'an elder who is a good reader'
You mean there are some elders who can't read a simple announcement? How stupid are these people?
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Real reasons behind this change?
by Gorb injust a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
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Dang, I can’t even find a tape for my 8 track player
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What Happened to 2034?
by NotFormer insome years ago the wt started putting it out there that noah took 120 years to build the ark, and since the wt was the new ark, it may allow them up to 2034 (1914 + 120) before armageddon.
it could have been their new 1975 to get excited about, but i don't see any mention of it at all now.
what happened during the two decades since last i observed anything about the wt?.
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I seem to remember that Ray Franz wrote that the idea had been floated around by one of the GB, but it was not adopted and never appeared in print.
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This answers the question if the organization was going to go more Hardline or mainstream.
by nowwhat? inlooks like we can expect a kinder, gentler jehovah and jesus during the great tribulation.
the door will not be closed to all non jws at the start of the tribulation.
but will have time to repent after false religion is destroyed.
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Looking back at the last few months' GB change (exit of Morris and entry of two new ones), and knowing that their decisions are voted on within the GB and must pass by a certain percentage (thanks Ray Franz), it seems likely that there are a number of changes coming down the pike. The time reporting change is really a major change in the religion's mindset. I would expect more changes to come.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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it was acknowledged that in most areas, people to not want strangers coming to their doors. It isn’t productive from the JW standpoint and a safety issue for the householder. Different times
Agreed. At least in the US, door to door activity is virtually non-existant anymore. There was a time when there were numerous sales people who did door to door sales, vacuum cleaners, Fuller brush, Bibles, insurance, you name it. The JW door to door activity kind of fit into that world which has been declining for several decades and is now virtually extinct. Covid really put an end to it, and post-Covid there is a shift in what people are willing to tolerate in terms of strangers coming around to their doors.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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dropoffyourkeylee
This is the death knell of the door-to-door service. It's over.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Wow, this is a major change. JFRutherford, NHKnorr, and old Freddie are probably rolling over in their graves.
I am a little surprised that elders and ministerial servants are not included in the groups who would continue to report their hours. After all, the unspoken 10 hour requirement is a major qualification for those positions, and now, just about anybody would qualify, as long as they know how to wash windows.
Biggest change in JW land in years
edited to add: my prediction : <within 10 years, women will be allowed to be ministerial servants and elders>