I've never looked at the app. Does it record monetary donations? If so, I wonder if they are heading towards using the record of donations as an indicator of spirituality.
dropoffyourkeylee
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New meeting format
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injust watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .
be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?
i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.
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The Apostates' Handy JW Glossary
by Vanderhoven7 inperhaps this has been printed here before...but still it gave me a few laughs...so here it is again.. the apostates' handy jw glossary.
by doug checketts.
"anointed" - an experience that, unfortunately, no "anointed" one has ever been able to explain.
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kudos
In the spirit of Ambrose Bierce
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New meeting format
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injust watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .
be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?
i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.
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OK, I just watched at (1.5 speed) the AGM part 1 as posted at jw.org.
It has undoubtedly been edited, though if significant parts were edited out it is not readily apparent.
My takeaways:
There was lengthy discussion of tithing in Israel, with a buildup to the extent that I almost thought they were going to suggest 10% donation or something like that. But no, they left donations voluntary. I predict they may return to the subject in future years. Loesch just went on and on about it; surely there will be a followup sometime.
They made a distinction of different requirements from regular Israelites (giving the 10% tithe) and Nazirites, who are compared to present pioneers and special servants. This seemed to be their justification for requiring pioneers, etc to continue to report hours, while regular publishers simply check a box.
They released a 32 page brochure, something about starting conversations instead of prepared statements/sermons.
If they talked about the changes to the mid-week meeting structure I missed it. Maybe it will be in Part 2, which will be on jw.org in January sometime.
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Women in JW Ministry
by NotFormer inwomen make up the main population of the kingdom halls, and the pool of young males willing to step up to "serve" is drying up.
what is the likelihood of "new light" on jw women in ministry roles formerly held only by males?.
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I maintain that it is almost a certainty. It’s just that it will take a while. 5, 10, even up to 20 years. They’ll start with ministerial servant assignments (deacon/deaconess). -
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Thought on “0 hours” reporting
by FFGhost inso everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
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I like how the 'Comments' box is so small you couldn't write more than three or four words. LOL
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BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?
by was a new boy inin the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.
then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..
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Back in the day when I knew Bethelites there, 'BA' was said to be 'Bad Attitude'. To be labelled a BA at Bethel was not a good thing (from the management perspective), but a sort of badge of honor for the rank and file Bethelite. The OP seems to suggest 'BA' stood for something else.
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Indian convention - 3 JWs died
by usualusername1 inhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67259078.
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There are a number of things being reported that I question. It will take a while to sort out the facts. I wonder if he was truly acting alone as he claims.
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""I find it odd that the jw.borg report says "Our thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this tragedy." ""
Indeed. Let a hurricane go through parts of the US and they are organizing relief and volunteer construction workers within a few hours. Something much worse happens in India and it is more like, meh, thoughts and prayers, 'Keep warm and well fed'.
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Jesus and Thomas twin theory?
by Anony Mous inin light of the recent attack on indian jws i did some research about christianity in india and found out that india has a long history of christian influence, and not, like many of us probably believed, brought by the british, rather india has had christians for 2000 years.. matter of fact, they may be similar length and claim to the ‘original’ christians only equal by the roman (european), syrian (middle eastern) and ethiopian (african) christians.
the story goes that judas thomas (aka doubting thomas or dydimus) (literally translated: dydimus = twin (greek) and tomas = twin (aramaic)), the twin brother of jesus travelled to india and did some miracles along the way, started the church there, hence deification of thomas is common there.. i found some articles written by eg.
bart ehrman supporting this theory, personally not that much of a fan, but i know many interested in jw exegesis as he supports various fringe theories including wtbts claim to the name jehovah.. the claims of jesus’ twin brother seem to be supported by the original writings, including the gospel as we know it in the west (almost every canonical gospel writer alludes to the twin), but also various other non-canonical writings and at least 3 complete gospels claimed to be by thomas himself (although the oldest writings stem from the first, second and third century respectively).
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I have never heard of it. Does sound interesting. If so, it is curious that none of the nativity scene stories mention anything about it. Admittedly, the nativity stories were most likely concocted years later to support the claim of Jesus' divinity, but even so, it seems to be a barrier to the twin theory.
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It is shocking and very sad. I will be following the story as it develops.
A few things that seem especially alarming:
- Previous JW-related shootings, etc have mostly been individuals targeting a specific Kingdom Hall, with personal grievances against individuals. This one is apparently aimed at killing anyone they could get. A terrifying escalation.
- You don't hear of many terrorist-type crimes from India. Isn't this very unusual for that country?
-JWs are such a small minority in India (60,000 out of 1.4 billion) that it seems like no one there has probably heard of them. Do they have that many enemies there so as to engender such hatred?
-a person named Dominic Martin has claimed to be responsible. If he is indeed the one, what nationality is he, and what is his backstory?
- There were three nearly simultaneous explosions. Was he really working alone or were there accomplices?