Posts by nicolaou

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

nicolaou

Jana: wouldn't you rather there be someone there to bring a sensitivity to the topic? To bring a lived experience to the topic?

Jana, you must have expected some pushback when you decided to post here but I hope you stick around and engage with us for a while longer.

Could you explain how you perceive Lloyds 'sensitivity' as regards CSA victims and just what do you mean about his 'lived experience'?

I just cannot fathom how a man who regularly supported the abuse of young women and girls by paying for their bodies can be endorsed as an advocate for abuse victims by anyone with a conscience.

It's never too late to reassess your position, I hope you do.

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Did Jesus Die On a Stake or a Cross?

by Sea Breeze in

dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.

information packed.

interesting take on paganism as well.

When saving work in a computer program like Word the save icon is an image of a floppy disk 💾. No-one uses floppy disks anymore but use of the icon persists, to change it might actually cause confusion.

Just because use of the Greek word stauros persisted when referring to crucifixions doesn't mean that the Romans hadn't upgraded their crucifixion method.

Not that any of this really matters.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

nicolaou

Ooh! Badge of honour.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

nicolaou

I wonder if he's been dropped? I no longer see LE listed in the upcoming Live Streams.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

nicolaou

Pimopaul: Wonder if this Christian Apologist Knows Lloyd's History?

I placed a link in the comments to lloydevans.info but it was removed pretty quickly.

Hopefully he's at least taking the time to read up but who knows.

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God cannot lie

by psyco in

the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

nicolaou

Lakes of fire, first resurrections, second deaths? I abandon you to your mumbo-jumbo.

I don't know what I expected really. When Christians defend God's killing of innocent children they're hardly going to flinch at hiding his lies.

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A Modest proposal to solve the 1914 problem

by r51785 in

throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.

the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.

this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.

nicolaou

Scholar: The fact of the matter is that not one of these lines of evidence is based on the Bible so this corpus of so-called lines of evidence belongs in the trash can.

Pure cognitive bias.

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God cannot lie

by psyco in

the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

nicolaou

How long does it take to eat a piece of fruit?

Adam and Eve had no expectation of living forever so where's the punishment if the death sentence is imposed at the very end of their lives when they would have died anyway?

Please answer for yourselves, don't hide behind links to someone else's apologetics.

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Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

by slimboyfat in

what’s keeping them?

this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

nicolaou

Slim', what would you say is the difference between JW's and the other faiths you mentioned as regards growth?

To my mind there is one big fat difference that accounts for the JW's continued growth where other religions are struggling.

Shunning.

If that control mechanism was absent as it is in those other religions (I stand to be corrected) then the exit rate would be so much higher. They'd still be baptising kids of course, I doubt the baptism rate would go down, but the churn rate would shoot even higher than it is already.

The JW's have nothing to be proud of in their continued growth, the price of it is simply too high.

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God cannot lie

by psyco in

the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

.

so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

nicolaou

Your pretend conversation is contrived to support the point that you want to make

Well of course it is so why not choose to address my point Jan instead of wasting effort attacking my analogy? The 'pretend conversation' I used may have been clunky but the obvious point I was making is that Adam and Eve did not die as God has said they would but rather they lived on (for centuries if the Bible is to be believed).

God lied.