how dissapointed would you be?.
what/who would you miss most?.
would the work so many had started (silentlambs, randy, kent, simon, lee elder et al) be able to carry on in any meaningful way?.
How dissapointed would you be?
What/who would you miss most?
Would the work so many had started (Silentlambs, Randy, Kent, Simon, Lee Elder et al) be able to carry on in any meaningful way?
Would the drift away from the Society begin to slow down or has the damage already been done?
If the internet died tomorrow would you feel isolated!?
Would you have friends you could talk to as freely as you can here?
Would you suffer withdrawal?
How would you feel 'if the internet died tomorrow'?
Nic'
many, having left the watchtower, never want to read one of their publications again!.
many others in the process of leaving need to read some of these books to get things straight in their own minds.. many better men than i have gone to a great deal of time, trouble and expense to put some of the society's older publications online - you simply need to search for them and save them to your hard drive.. i've put some of the more important works all together on one page.. you will find:.
[1] russells six volume work - studies in the scriptures.. [2] russells 'posthumous work' - the finished mystery.. [3] tabernacle shadows of the 'better sacrifices' (pdf).
Sorry for all the frustration guys - the problem seems to be fixed now.
Here is a direct link to the relevant page:
. http://communities.msn.co.uk/altJehovahsWitnesses&naventryid=111
Nic'
many, having left the watchtower, never want to read one of their publications again!.
many others in the process of leaving need to read some of these books to get things straight in their own minds.. many better men than i have gone to a great deal of time, trouble and expense to put some of the society's older publications online - you simply need to search for them and save them to your hard drive.. i've put some of the more important works all together on one page.. you will find:.
[1] russells six volume work - studies in the scriptures.. [2] russells 'posthumous work' - the finished mystery.. [3] tabernacle shadows of the 'better sacrifices' (pdf).
many, having left the watchtower, never want to read one of their publications again!.
many others in the process of leaving need to read some of these books to get things straight in their own minds.. many better men than i have gone to a great deal of time, trouble and expense to put some of the society's older publications online - you simply need to search for them and save them to your hard drive.. i've put some of the more important works all together on one page.. you will find:.
[1] russells six volume work - studies in the scriptures.. [2] russells 'posthumous work' - the finished mystery.. [3] tabernacle shadows of the 'better sacrifices' (pdf).
Many, having left the Watchtower, never want to read one of their publications again!
Many others in the process of leaving need to read some of these books to get things straight in their own minds.
Many better men than I have gone to a great deal of time, trouble and expense to put some of the Society's older publications online - you simply need to search for them and save them to your hard drive.
I've put some of the more important works all together on one page.
You will find:
[1] Russells six volume work - Studies in the Scriptures.
[2] Russells 'posthumous work' - The Finished Mystery.
[3] Tabernacle Shadows of the 'Better Sacrifices' (pdf)
[4] Pastor Russell's Sermons (pdf)
[5] The Photo Drama of Creation - complete!
[6] The entire set of Zion's Watch Tower from 1896 to the 1916!
[7] The current Elders Manual plus add-ons.
Just click the link below and go to 'Study Links'.
Nic'
could you explain in a simple and concise way the differences between the 'faithful and discreet slave', the 'remnant', the 'anointed' and the 'governing body' as they exist at present?.
there's a reason for asking but we'll get to that later.. .
nic'.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
In line with the answers you've just given, could you now answer the following:
[1] If, as you both seem to agree, the 'remnant' of 'anointed ones' are all part of the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave class', how then do they fulfill Jesus commission to 'feed his household meat in due season' unless they are a part of the 'Governing Body'?
[2] If, as you state,
the Governing Body [are] more or less an administrative unit representing this group [the remnant]how do they recive input from these anointed ones scattered throughout the Earth so as to represent them?
[3] If in the few congregations where there exist cogent members of the anointed remnant of the Faithful and Discrete slave class, would it not be reasonable to expect that those ones would be taking the lead in the teaching and spritual feeding in those localities?
OldHippie, you aren't necessarily gullible and I'm certainly not trying to get you mired in some theological pit. It's just that these sorts of questions were the ones that first started to make me think for myself.
I sure don't have all the answers, but when it appeared to me that doctrines I once supported had become unsupportable I knew I had to make some serious choices.
I didn't want be df'd for the sake of my family and friends. I couldn't disassociate for the same reason and yet I needed to keep my personal integrity.
Like many thousands of others I became a 'Nominal JW'.
Perhaps this is a form of hypocrisy - I'm still struggling to exist this way - but the alternative is too awful to contemplate, the loss of my Mother, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, cousins and many, many dear friends.
The questions I posed in this thread are not the sorts of things that most JW's spend any time worrying over but that doesn't mean that they are unimportant.
If these questions cannot be answered convincingly what does that say for the validity of the Watchtowers claims for itself?
"Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, nor to find talk or discourse, but to weigh and consider." --Francis Bacon
i don't know how to make this an actual link.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0800/biblequiz.html.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0601/biblepunishment.html.
Okay, in England we call this . a full stop - perhaps you call it period?
Really any punctuation in front of the web address will do e.g. . , ' ` etc, but I've found that . is easiest and doesn't show up in your post thus keeping the URL nice and neat!
Simple!
Nic'
i don't know how to make this an actual link.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0800/biblequiz.html.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0601/biblepunishment.html.
just put a full stop before the links and they will become active
. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0800/biblequiz.html
. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0601/biblepunishment.html
Nic'
with all of the america bashing going on of late, i thought i'd mention the fact that america stands for freedom, as flawed as our system may be.
you're even free to be critical of the government and it's leaders.
the many men and women who have died defending this country did so to preserve the rights even of people who hate the u.s. there are many different cultures here, so there are many different attempts at creating laws for the land.
Have to agree with the PathofThorns/Englishman line on this.
I've never been to America but always notice that any Americans I meet are almost itching to tell me how great the USA is.
Why do they feel the need to do that? As much as I love living in the UK I wouldn't go around telling people how proud I am to be a Brit', or how Great Britain is the greatest country on Earth.
Anyway, haven't we been here already?
........................... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=4328&site=3
Nic'
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hello all......some things that have happened during the past week have made me think about exjws and honor.
we all remember 'theocratic warfare' and how it is ok to lie to those who don't deserve the truth.
so, my question is.....are exjws as a group more dishonest than people from other religious groups?
ticatoo
Just a reminder that you can now use your new email address [email protected]
Why not send yourself a message to check it out?
Nic'
international of course:.
dave allen, irish standup (sit down drinking whisky actually).
bill cosby, love that fat albert.
Have to agree with Dave Allen and Jack Dee (who was by far the most entertaining guy on Celebrity Big Brother!)
But how about lesser known Lou Eisen?
I posted this snippet of his a few months ago but here it again for anyone who missed it.
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I saw irony in action today for the first time ever.
I went out for breakfast this morning with my girlfriend, saw a Jehovah's Witness lock himself out of his own house. Kept ringing the bell. Nobody would answer the damn door.
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From Lou Eisens' 'Rhapsody in Lou'.
I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself!!
Nic
