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  What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

  by Starlight.vee in

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  like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.

  how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.

  there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.

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  slimboyfat:

  The latest summer convention is probably the best they’ve ever held in terms of the quality of the programme.

  Really? Examples please Slim'.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

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  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  You do know Kaleb is an autistic savant right?

  No, I didn't know that and it does make a difference. My wife has worked with autistic children in the UK education system for fifteen years so I've picked up a little knowledge through her.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Kaleb, of course it's a myth. Of course it didn't happen at all, I acknowledged as much earlier.

  The discussion is for the benefit of an exJW audience who, like myself at any rate, we're indoctrinated on this stuff and some find it more difficult to let go than others.

  Stop being such a smug drama queen.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  KOW: it just reads "you will surely die." No mention of a "day." So where is the lie? They did die, right?

  Everyone dies. If some thug threatens you with death you aren't going to assume they're referring to your old age demise.

  Equally if someone says you won't die you aren't going to assume they mean you'll never die, that's just ridiculous.

  Sophisticated theology can be fascinating but if it's arguing that black is white it's worthless.
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  Ages of each user here?

  by ukpimo in

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  i'm interested to know the age demographics here.

  it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.

  it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.

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  I just turned 60. Crazy to think I made my first post here at 36.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Is it evil to be naked?

  Only if you do it right
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Don't waste your time Jeffro. God's lies are the theme of this topic so obfuscation is the least we can expect from his followers.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Halcon:

  If I give you a definition, will you call it asinine like jeffro did?

  I was merely pulling you up on your earlier assertion that "asking for the correct definition of the word 'spirit' confirms you believe it exists".

  Does the fact that I asked you for a definition of unicorn mean that I believe unicorns exist? If you actually answer my question and offer a definition what does that say about your belief in unicorns?

  C'mon man, you need to put something on solid ground.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Halcon: The fact that you are asking for the correct definition of the word 'spirit' confirms you believe it exists.

  Halcon, how would you define 'unicorn'?
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  peacefulpete: Pursuing a hypothetical to it's logical end, can be revealing. In the case of the Yahwist creation myth, it can become a rabbit hole.

  Agreed. Whatever value can be drawn from these stories if they're treated as allegorical is lost the moment they're taken literally. I think part of it is the fear that not taking stories like the Fall literally will bring the whole house of cards down.

  If Adam and Eve didn't fall from grace in Eden then what did Jesus die for?