@ Sea Breeze
If you're at all interested I'm continuing our conversation here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4807426121924608/god-wont-lift-finger-help-you
nicolaou
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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
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nicolaou
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God won't lift a finger to help you.
by nicolaou insea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
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nicolaou
Sea Breeze: @nicolau,
I stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address. If you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what Jesus offers, then why don't YOU present that in a new topic?Pathetic diversion. We were discussing Gods refusal or inability to come to the aid of people with specific illnesses or those in imminent danger. Try to focus.
You have no way of knowing if this is true or not, (my claim that God won't lift a finger to protect you from an assailant or rapist) especially since you are an atheist.
Well excuse me but women and children, and to a lesser degree men, are raped and assaulted daily. That God didn't protect any of them proves my point. I DO know.
As you already know, the answer to evil is to either judge it or take away our free will, make us robots and prevent the possibility of evil. Over and over a man who predicted that he would die and raise himself from the dead, while he was dead, said that there would be a personal judgment for everyone. That is God's answer to the problem of evil. You just don't like it, even though you have no clue of a practical and acceptable alternative.
Wipe the spittle away Sea Breeze. That was just an incoherent, fundamentalist rant. Societies of all faiths and none have developed systems of justice for millennia. None of them are perfect but humanity does try. Unfortunately, evil will always be with us - anyone who claims otherwise is delusional.
Building on this ignorance, you "reason" that faith based addiction programs are a waste of time since evil still exists.
Actually no. Faith based addiction programs DO work. Faith IS powerful. But the credit for the success of these programs belongs to the individuals who engage with them. Doctors sometimes prescribe placebos. The patient doesn't know this but has faith in his doctor and the 'medicine' supplied and hey presto!; His condition improves.
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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
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nicolaou
Calm down Sea Breeze. I'll be happy to continue our conversation but I don't want to derail this topic, it's just impolite. If you'd care to continue just copy and paste your last comment as the opening post of a new topic.
I hope you do.
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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
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nicolaou
Sea Breeze:
no credit to God for victory over this or any other addiction
Riiiight. God will help you beat addiction but congenital diseases - not so much. Won't lift a finger to protect you from an assailant or rapist either.
God's got weird priorities.
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Watchtower Used to Teach Jesus Was Not an Angel and was "the Lord from Heaven" Who Died on a Cross!
by Sea Breeze in.
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no wonder they instructed congregation elders to throw away old literature from kingdon hall libraries.
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nicolaou
No doubt you're correct but here's the thing in Watchtowerland.
Nobody cares.
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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nicolaou
I mean, I'm no fan of Watchtower but comparing their output to Hitler's speeches? Really?
I actually think I could compare Jesus to a Nazi sympathiser Sea Breeze. Want me to elaborate?
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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nicolaou
She is both all the time and should identify as such.
Bullshit. When I'm at my Greek family gatherings it's raucous and hysterical and I'm happy to go native. My wife is an English rose and when we're with her family I switch.
Get over yourself and stop demanding what people should be. It's not your business.
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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nicolaou
Simon, you and I have been posting here for over two decades and I think the only thing we've ever disagreed on is Trump.
That's fine, we aren't kids.
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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nicolaou
Sea Breeze:
When Kamala hits Indian TV, she’s Indian. When she rolls up in Atlanta, she’s Black. Politicians call this code-switching. We used to call this lying.
My folks emigrated to the UK in December 1963 from Cyprus, I was born a few months later in a Midlands town. Am I British or Cypriot? Let me tell you, I identify as both.
Harris was born to an Indian mother and Jamaican father. You can be two things, it's not complicated.
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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nicolaou
slimboyfat:
The latest summer convention is probably the best they’ve ever held in terms of the quality of the programme.
Really? Examples please Slim'.