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  Is the JW version of The Lord's Supper really a Parody?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  a black mass is a ceremony celebrated by various satanic groups.

  it ... is intentionally a sacrilegious and blasphemous parody of a catholic mass.

  - wikipedia.

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  Slimboyfat:

  Perhaps those passages misrepresent God?

  That would be an awful lot of misrepresentation, in which case why bother with the types of theological conversations you're having if the source material is so misrepresentative? And if there are 'nice' passages like the one you quoted what of it? How can you be sure they are accurate and the monstrous ones aren't truthful?

  Imagine taking a similar approach to someone else. What if I were to form the Lucy Letby Appreciation Society or the Harold Shipman Fan Club. People would rightly be horrified and point to all the innocents killed at their hands.

  How would I sound if I said they were being misrepresented or that we should focus on the good things they did?

  Or, as you and Sea Breeze are doing, have a conversation about the design of the Fan Clubs letterhead?

  You can do better than this.
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  Is the JW version of The Lord's Supper really a Parody?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a black mass is a ceremony celebrated by various satanic groups.

  it ... is intentionally a sacrilegious and blasphemous parody of a catholic mass.

  - wikipedia.

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  nicolaou

  slimboyfat:

  Could you explain what the argument is first. Who exactly is a child murderer and why?

  Sure. I'm arguing that it betrays a lack of moral judgement to worship a child killer and that debating the finer points of said worship without addressing the actual child killing proves how damaging religious worship truly is.

  The god of the Bible is of course a child killer according to the text. If this is the god you worship, then you are worshipping a child killer. If you worship Jesus then it's a little more nuanced.

  If you are a trinitarian then Jesus is part of the godhead responsible for all those Old Testament child killings so you are still worshipping a child killer.

  If you are not a trinitarian then presumably you accept Jesus numerous statements to the effect that he "and the Father are one" or that "he who has seen me has seen the Father". So you would at least be in agreement with the object of your worship, a person who supports the murder of innocent children.

  Hope that's clear enough.
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  Is the JW version of The Lord's Supper really a Parody?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a black mass is a ceremony celebrated by various satanic groups.

  it ... is intentionally a sacrilegious and blasphemous parody of a catholic mass.

  - wikipedia.

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  nicolaou

  No apologies Slim'. If my point is so old you'd think it would've been answered by now. Want to try?
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  Is the JW version of The Lord's Supper really a Parody?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a black mass is a ceremony celebrated by various satanic groups.

  it ... is intentionally a sacrilegious and blasphemous parody of a catholic mass.

  - wikipedia.

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  nicolaou

  Christians condemning other Christians for not worshipping a mass child murderer in precisely the right way is twisted. You guys need a serious look at yourselves.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  nicolaou

  Well that didn't take long 😂

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  nicolaou

  

  Don't suppose it'll be up for long though..
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  nicolaou

  Good luck with that Lloyd! My guess is he's desperately trying to raise his profile to slow his brand rot. He could actually accomplish that by doing some work but well . . you know 😂

  He'll soon have to face the ignominy of having fewer than 300 patrons. Not this month perhaps but certainly by the new year.

  So what's his X username? Be nice to say hello 😈
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  JWN, 23 years posting Blondie

  by blondie in

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  can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.

  i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.

  in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.

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  nicolaou

  Rattigan350:

  Why is there so much stupid stuff out there like people complaining that in 1969 an Awake article said that we won't grow old in this system. As if everything hinges on an Awake article.

  Because it wasn't just one article, it was decades of the same indoctrination year in year out, month in month out ad nauseum. That one article is quoted often simply because it typifies the prevalent attitude at the time so well.

  People are pissed because it affected their whole lives.
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  Serious sinner?

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
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  with the statement in the study watchtower this sunday, that stop serving jehovah is a serious sin, the following:.

  - can i conclude now, that we, (i, wife and 2 children), since 2008 pomo and no longer active in any religious activity, are serious sinners for jehovahs witnesses?.

  writing this in a watchtower, a statement like that, could have big implications.. it makes me so sad.

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  nicolaou

  Independent thinking, what normal people call "thinking for yourself". If you believe supernatural passages in the bible are true don't kid yourself that you're thinking independently. You may not be captive to an organisation but you are certainly held captive by that book.
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  Serious sinner?

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the statement in the study watchtower this sunday, that stop serving jehovah is a serious sin, the following:.

  - can i conclude now, that we, (i, wife and 2 children), since 2008 pomo and no longer active in any religious activity, are serious sinners for jehovahs witnesses?.

  writing this in a watchtower, a statement like that, could have big implications.. it makes me so sad.

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  nicolaou

  Journeyman:

  That was just a statement of what is Christian doctrine

  No, that was you preaching. Re-read that 1st paragraph of yours. You preach that we are created by god and that resisting him is a serious sin. You didn't quote the bible in that whole post. It was all you.

  And even if the bible does make sinister "resistance is futile" threats, what of it? Why take it seriously and, more importantly, why trouble exiting cult members with the very same intimidation?