by Gorb 35 Replies latest jw friends
With the statement in the study watchtower this sunday, that stop serving Jehovah is a serious sin, the following:
- can I conclude now, that we, (I, wife and 2 children), since 2008 POMO and no longer active in any religious activity, are serious sinners for Jehovahs witnesses?
Writing this in a Watchtower, a statement like that, could have big implications.
It makes me so sad.
Gorby
Using the word "sin " so they can manipulate and control it followers so they won't leave the high control group.
Yes, that was noted and discussed with Mrs S F. They keep slipping in these stiletto ideas between your ribs designed to foster guilt and fear.
Last week it was "Another might be strongly inclined toward unclean practices, such as masturbation or viewing pornography. Still another may be struggling with fear of man, independent thinking, a quick temper, or something else. As James states, “each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire.”—Jas. 1:14."
Notice what they did there? Masturbation, porn, independent thinking. Oh the guilt! How do any keep their sanity?
I feel something is in the air. Maybe counsel is ahead.
The study article can lead to mass big problems for faders.
G.
That fear of man got me laughing 😂🤣😂🤣😂
The of fear of Governing Body members is not fear of man. Dumb writers
Actually, they've always taught that "independent thinking" is a serious sin. It's a clever blurring of definitions though, because really "independent thought" is not the problem (we have been created with that capacity), but resistance against God and the holy spirit is what is the serious sin.
In scripture Christians are encouraged to use their own power of reason to come to conclusions, and there are various examples of Bible characters challenging God for an explanation so they could understand why he was doing or asking for something, so just asking for evidence and having an enquiring mind are not sins.
Technically, resistance against God is the "original sin", because Satan first chose it, becoming a "resister" and "opposer", then Adam and Even also chose it. It's the one which keeps coming up through history, and will continue right through to the end of the 1,000 years until the "final test", according to Revelation.
However, while using your independent thinking to resist God is definitely a sin according to the Bible, that's NOT the same as thinking differently to a group of men from Brooklyn - but that's what the GB cleverly equates it to with this overreach:
That fear of man got me laughing 😂🤣😂🤣😂
The of fear of Governing Body members is not fear of man. Dumb writers
True. Obsessively following the GB is fear of man, and the GB themselves are often guilty of fear of man when they suddenly change policies and statements to suit governments when they feel like it (especially if they think they will get financial benefits, or if they feel the HQ itself is threatened).
the WTS makes it clear that thinking that shows that not being fully loyal to the WTS thinking is the sin.
Independent thinking
The Creator progressively reveals the truth to his people. Hence, our understanding of the Scriptures is bound to be refined from time to time. The vast majority of Jehovah’s people rejoice over such refinements. A few become “righteous overmuch” and resent the changes. Pride may play a role, and some fall into the trap of independent thinking. Whatever the reason, such murmuring is hazardous, since it can draw us back into the world and its ways.
Such thinking is an evidence of pride. And the Bible says: “Pride is before a crash, and a haughty spirit before stumbling.”) If we get to thinking that we know better than the organization, we should ask ourselves: “Where did we learn Bible truth in the first place? Would we know the way of the truth if it had not been for guidance from the organization? Really, can we get along without the direction of God’s organization?” No, we cannot!—.
Watchtower have made the worship of God into the worship of an earthly organisation. One they admit is imperfect.
Journeyman:
resistance against God and the holy spirit is what is the serious sin.
This right here is the problem with religious posters on a forum for recovering JW's. Piling on the guilt and fear that leaving God or the cult is a terrible thing to do.
Shameful.
Journeyman:
resistance against God and the holy spirit is what is the serious sin.
This right here is the problem with religious posters on a forum for recovering JW's. Piling on the guilt and fear that leaving God or the cult is a terrible thing to do.
Shameful.
That was just a statement of what is Christian doctrine, which is supposed to be what the JW org is founded on. One can choose to believe it or not, but my point was about those who supposedly do (the GB) and how they use that as a starting point to take it further for their own ends.
How you choose to react to comments about Christian beliefs (or any others) is your business. I read lots of comments or views (religious or otherwise) expressed on here that I consider wrong or offensive, but it's not for me to try to control what is said or call other posters "shameful".
Besides, this is not solely "a forum for recovering JW's". The intro to this forum says it's for "those interested in ... beliefs or the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society" and "offering support for both current and former Jehovah's Witnesses and anyone else who has been affected by the beliefs, doctrines and practices of the Jehovah's Witness religion..."
Getting back on track, I agree with blondie's post, and Listener's, which is the essence of what I was saying. The GB take broadly accepted (by Christians) doctrine and insert themselves into it, and that's becoming more noticeable in recent years as they keep talking more and more about obedience to "God's earthly organisation".
