Does anybody of you has become an atheist? Personnally, I don't know if jehovah, god or whatever you call it exist but I do know that if he exist, he's really discreet. He's so discreet that I tend to believe that he just doesn't exist.
Nicolas
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Where are you in your recovery process?
by Nicolas inhi everyone and happy new year.
it's been a long time since i posted here, i've been lurking for a while too but now i would like to share my experience.
i would also like to hear your experience.
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Where are you in your recovery process?
by Nicolas inhi everyone and happy new year.
it's been a long time since i posted here, i've been lurking for a while too but now i would like to share my experience.
i would also like to hear your experience.
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Nicolas
Hi everyone and happy new year. It's been a long time since I posted here, I've been lurking for a while too but now I would like to share my experience. I would also like to hear your experience. Some of you may be just in the beginning of the recovery process other may have moved on with their life... Personnally, I would say that my recovery is still not completed but as years goes by, it keeps getting better. I began my research about the Watchtower in 2001. Like many of you, I was still a little afraid to search on the Internet, I still had the old fear that the JW organisation taught me when I was younger. And, I didn't know that there were so much people who were going through the same process. At the beginning, you feel really alone and what you learned from the WBTS do not help you to get rid of this loneliness. It's hard to make new friends when you learned that everything from the world (outside of the organisation) is bad. Now, in 2007 I'm working as a graphist, I like my job and I have an offer for a new job in the same company I'm working now but in London. I will be quite happy if I can get this job in London even if it's only for four month as I've never visited Europe. One thing I'm still trying to cope with is my shyness and I will try to get to know as much as possible people in 2007 as a way to get rid of this shyness. Also, when I realized that everything I learned about the wbts was false, I had a lot of questions. I wanted to know if there really was a true god if what was supposed to be only true religion was false. Also, I was wondering what was the purpose of life if everyone die and then nothing happen after (in opposite to the resurrection teaching of the WBTS). But now, I don't care so much about these things, I think that the most important thing is to be happy in the present. In fact, my primary goal for life now is to be happy. As someone said (I think it was Thomas Jefferson): "If you don't agree that hapinness is the purpose of life, than you are choosing something that isn't happiness as your purpose for living".
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The new Track has anyone heard?
by ladione5000 inwe are all doomed to death, i think by the end of this year too, so we dont have long .
i heard that the work is going to stop, that would be kindof nice here since it is so cold in the winter and knocking on doors waking people up is really lame in the first place, i often wondered why we had to hit the streets so early and make people so angry?.
well supposely this new track is hitting him where it hurts, they are out right telling people they are going to die at the hands of god if they do not join up with the jws right now.
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Wow, if they really asked everyone to stock up for three month of food supply, then they are really desperate to get some attention. I guess the people who were at the Bethel in 1975 are now gone, so the new people didn't see the mess it was.
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The new Track has anyone heard?
by ladione5000 inwe are all doomed to death, i think by the end of this year too, so we dont have long .
i heard that the work is going to stop, that would be kindof nice here since it is so cold in the winter and knocking on doors waking people up is really lame in the first place, i often wondered why we had to hit the streets so early and make people so angry?.
well supposely this new track is hitting him where it hurts, they are out right telling people they are going to die at the hands of god if they do not join up with the jws right now.
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What the hell? Are they doing once again some sort of prediction about Armageddon coming? I thought, they learned the lesson in the 70's when their prediction came out to be wrong once again. I'm curious about this new tract, are they doing a campaign to distribute as much as possible of these? When I was a kid, I remember that we were told that only god know when Armageddon would come... Are they changing the doctrine once again?
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How to brainwash only part of your brain.
by Ingenuous ini was talking to a mental health professional (don't remember her credentials) about jws.
part of what i couldn't get my brain around was how jws (myself included, when i was "in") can seem to function so well in other areas, but so easily and completely give up their minds to others when it comes to the org.
the behavior seems so irrational and deluded, with so many cognitive distortions at work, that healthy functioning in other areas would appear precluded.
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Nicolas
It's a lot like what George Orwell describe as "doublethink" in his book "1984"...
"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. (...) To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies" (Georges Orwell, 1984) -
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Gasoline / Petroleum breaks the £1 / Litre barrier
by LittleToe inyes, it's official!
my last fill-up cost well over 50, at a cost of 101.9p/litre.. even having been accustomed to paying 10% more than in mainland scotland, this is a new all-time high.
it was bad enough when it broke the 1 / gallon mark, but this is outrageous!.
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You are only seeing the beginning. If the demand continue to increase while the offer remain the same, the price will continue to go up. But the offer will probably not remain the same, if we reach "peak oil", the production will begin to drop every year. So, we better find something else than petrol quickly to propel those big Hummer and those Ford F150.
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The end of cheap oil = the end of "business as usual"?
by Nicolas inthe subject of peak oil has been talked a couple of time here.
you'll find a lot of infos about it on google but i want to do know your opinion... will the end of cheap oil will mean the end of the world (death) for a large portion of the humanity or we will just adapt to the new reality?
personnaly, i think that we will have to live in a post-technological world if we put no more energy to find something to replace petrol.
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The subject of peak oil has been talked a couple of time here. You'll find a lot of infos about it on google but I want to do know your opinion... Will the end of cheap oil will mean the end of the world (death) for a large portion of the humanity or we will just adapt to the new reality? Personnaly, I think that we will have to live in a post-technological world if we put no more energy to find something to replace petrol. You can't replace it just with electrical car. If you have an electrical car, you need a source of energy to produce the electricity. Also, there's thousand of objects (plastic) that we use everyday and they are made from petrol.
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Millions living now will never die, due to SCIENCE!!!
by Bas insince the rise of biotech, the possibility of eternal life and an easy cure for cancer have been widely discussed and speculated about.. .
now, however, it looks like the cancercells themselves are teaching scientists how to stop the agingprocess and bringing us closer to eternal life.
millions living now will never die!!!.
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If we want to live longer, we can already start to do more exercises instead of watching TV and playing computer games.
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What songs stand the test of time?
by JV inseeing as i'm dowloading songs so i can blast them at the neighbour kids, i was thinking, what songs stand the test of time?
what songs do you listen to over and over again and never get tired of.
here's my list.. if you tolerate this - manic street preachers.
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Knocking on heaven's door - Bob Dylan
God - John Lennon
Instant Karma - John Lennon
The eye of the tiger - Survivor
The boxer - Simon & Garfunkel
The sound of silence - Simon & Garfunkel Let it be - The beatles
Stairway to heaven - Led Zeppelin
Nothing else matters - Metallica
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Could the Spirit world have helped your exit from the religion?
by free2beme inboy, this might be that can of worms i meant to keep closed!.
i was thinking about something though and wondered what your thoughts might be.
if you believe in angels, the spirit realm, spirit guides or spirits of loved ones that have crossed.
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Nicolas
Indeed some informations came to light more, when my father died but I can't say that it was caused by the influence of a spirit. I just found out how cruel and hypocrite it was when I saw that two of my sisters who are still in the org had to shun my mother because she dissacioted herself. My father and my mother were inactive since more than 3 years and there was no problem with it until my father died. After this, the elder started to harass my mother. She had only one choice left if she wanted to stop the harassment and it was dissasociation.