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  IF cornered, what 2 or 3 examples of error in JW teaching would you point out?

  by undercover in

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  just curious about this.

  if - if you were cornered by elders or family or even an outsider who was curious, what two or three things would you use to point out why you no longer accept "the truthtm"?

  (an exercise, not a factual situation).

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  I like to keep things simple... JW's claim to be Gods messengers preaching the good news of the Kingdom to all the world right? I like to share Isaiah 44:26, " (Jehovah) ...the One making the word of his servant come true, and the One that carries out completely the counsel of his own messengers."

  Has God ever made the words of this "faithful servant" come true?

  They say they NEVER claimed to be prophets who spoke in Gods name. That is a pure 100% lie. I like to share the facts HERE

  Most JW's, if asked will tell you they believe God will read hearts and save more than just the JW's but that is not what the Watchtower teaches. I like to share the facts HERE

  These are only a few points of many ;)
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  I need help finding something in the Watchtower PLEASE... I don't have the CD Library

  by Greybeard in

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  i feel curtain that there was a watchtower article/articles that state christ blood only covers those of the anointed class, 144,000. they go on to say the "other sheep" are saved by association with the anointed/fds.

  am i wrong here?

  i thought for sure i read that a long time ago and it rang my bell then... please help me find this if you can or set me straight on it.. thank you!.

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  I feel curtain that there was a Watchtower article/articles that state Christ blood only covers those of the anointed class, 144,000. They go on to say the "other sheep" are saved by association with the anointed/FDS. Am I wrong here? I thought for sure I read that a long time ago and it rang my bell then... Please help me find this if you can or set me straight on it.

  Thank you!

  Greybeard
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  They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

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  well i figured i should give you all an update.

  they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

  it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

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  Hang in there brother. I love you my friend.

  Greybeard
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  unanswerable questions

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  hey all...... i have decided to compile a list of questions that jws simply cannot answer without opening up a vulnerability.....such as.

  1) if jesus is only mediator for the 144,000 then who is the mediator for the rest of us?

  2) plasma is one of the four main components of blood and cannot be taken.

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  14. If Jehovah is " the One making the word of his servant come true, and the One that carries out completely the counsel of his own messengers" as Isaiah 44:26 tells us then why haven't Jehovah Witnesses words completely come true?

  See how the Watchtower explains this here: http://www.jwstruggle.com/2011/11/jehovah-god-is-the-grand-identifier-of-his-true-messengers/
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  Has the GB ever said, "We are good-for-nothing slaves" as Jesus commanded at Luke 17:10?

  by Greybeard in

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  luke 17:10, "so you, also, when you have done all the things assigned to you, say, we are good-for-nothing slaves.

  " (nwt).

  all we ever read in the watchtower is how wonderful the "slave" is .

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  "...f or one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers."

  " Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ."

  " Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs."

  Hmmmmm.....
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  Has the GB ever said, "We are good-for-nothing slaves" as Jesus commanded at Luke 17:10?

  by Greybeard in

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  luke 17:10, "so you, also, when you have done all the things assigned to you, say, we are good-for-nothing slaves.

  " (nwt).

  all we ever read in the watchtower is how wonderful the "slave" is .

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  Luke 17: 10, " So YOU , also, when YOU have done all the things assigned to YOU , say, ‘We are good-for-nothing slaves. What we have done is what we ought to have done." (NWT)

  All we ever read in the Watchtower is how wonderful the "slave" is
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  DO THREE ELDER'S MEAN IT IS JUDICIAL?!?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  i have a friend who met with a couple of elders recently and i was told things went well, no issues.

  well a couple weeks later they stopped by my friends place, ( just to say hi ) right before they left they said, " hey can we meet again?

  my friend said, " sure ".

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  It takes only 3 elders to make a JC. They can add more if they feel the need. When I was only 20 I was in a JC that had 5 elders. The CO and DO were asked to join

  This sounds like a JC for sure if you asked me. Why 3 elders? Watch out for these nuts, they will DF you in a heartbeat.

  I would avoid them at all costs if he doesn't want to get DFed. Do not go into a meeting blindfolded. Make them tell you what it is about. What are the charges and who are the accusers? You have a right to ask these questions.

  Good luck,

  Greybeard
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  I wonder... Who are the top apostates the Watchtower HATES the most?

  by Greybeard in

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  no doubt ray franz is at the top.... paul grundy's web site jwfacts.com helped me the most!

  thanks paul!!!.

  randall watters from freeminds.org has got to be way up there.... who else?

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  Does anyone know why these older links wont work HERE
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  I wonder... Who are the top apostates the Watchtower HATES the most?

  by Greybeard in

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  no doubt ray franz is at the top.... paul grundy's web site jwfacts.com helped me the most!

  thanks paul!!!.

  randall watters from freeminds.org has got to be way up there.... who else?

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  Danny Haszard is a new one to me.
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  I wonder... Who are the top apostates the Watchtower HATES the most?

  by Greybeard in

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  no doubt ray franz is at the top.... paul grundy's web site jwfacts.com helped me the most!

  thanks paul!!!.

  randall watters from freeminds.org has got to be way up there.... who else?

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  Greybeard

  Hi Cedars!

  True the Society is it's own worst enemy, however, they do not hate themselves. My question is who do they hate the most? I think we all agree Ray Franz tops this list. Who are the others?

  No doubt you are way up on the list Cedars with http://jwsurvey.org/

  Blondie is no doubt way up on this list too!