Two Witness physicians treating a Witness patient raised the issue in 1944. The patient refused blood citing Acts. They wrote to the Society asking for help with their patient. Their response was the blood ban. I know some will want greater detail. But this comes from a series of interviews with old-time believers, in this case from one of the doctors involved. We are bound by some confidentiality agreements for a few more years. Sorry.
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9When did the society decide blood transfusions were a bad idea?
by new boy inmore book research..
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AAAAAAAArrgh!
by zeb insir simon,.
how many dozen bloody times do i have to do the capcha thing before i get in.
one round of street signs or cars and that was it.
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google does that. simon has no control over it. complain to google via twitter. @google
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Hebrew language question?
by Crazyguy invowel points were not added to the hebrew language until from what i have read the 10th century ad.
so how can anyone properly translate this language and the older canaanite dialect properly?.
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f y cn rd ths. y cn rd mst thngs wth t vwls.
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The First Judicial Committee?
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... when do you think the first judicial committee took place?
can you imagine being the guinea pig for that kind of fiasco?
i bet they were like, "what kind of bullshit is this?".
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Scratch,
I thought I knew of all of the Russell lawsuits. I'm not certain I know which you mean. Will you please elaborate?
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True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?
by Finkelstein inmuch as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.
such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.
i would say convincingly yes, no question.
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I agree to the extent that Watchtower 'governing body' theory isn't scriptural. That means Watchtower authority structure is self-entitled. That's also true of every other ecclesiastical body with an authoritarian structure beyond the local congregation.
I suppose that if we have a religion we ought to be confident that we have 'truth.' But shouldn't there always be at least some doubt, some question about how much we get right? Some criticize Witness changes of doctrine. They should change when they're wrong.
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True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?
by Finkelstein inmuch as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.
such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.
i would say convincingly yes, no question.
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Slim,
A partial rough draft, work in progress, of my Writing Partner's intro essay to volume 2 is on our blog. He touches on Gruss's work. http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2017/10/okay-so.html
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True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?
by Finkelstein inmuch as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.
such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.
i would say convincingly yes, no question.
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vienne
In the past two years I've attended two meetings and one convention. This does not mean I see the Witness organization as 'truth.' But since I've chosen to pursue their history, I have some need to stay current. I associated for some years with Church of God - General Conference [Atlanta]. We parted company amiably. They're Socinian. I am not. But there are many within Abrahamic Faith bodies such as CoGGC that are good people and as true a Christian as anyone else.
I let Witnesses in whenever they call, feeding them cookies or cake and coffee or tea. I listen politely, debate respectfully. If you're asking me what I think of Witnesses, I believe many are fine people, harmless, zealous for what they believe. Do I think the Watchtower is God directed? While I cannot say God does not direct some Witnesses, I do not believe that there is any sort of evidence that the Watchtower is his organization.
I would not discourage anyone from examining Watchtower belief. For some, being a Witness at least keeps them out of trouble. But do I see it as rational, biblical, and God's own? No.
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True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?
by Finkelstein inmuch as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.
such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.
i would say convincingly yes, no question.
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F,
Not the way I'd say it, but ultimately not an unexpected feeling. And not a statement with which I can't at least partially agree. Watchtower scholarship is often on the shallow side. Where they tend to shine is in simple exposition of Bible expectations. Otherwise their record as 'scholars' is over stated and poor.
I disagree over motives, as I've said. I'm comfortable calling Witness leadership 'self-entitled.' I'm not comfortable with corrupt. However, they do want people to share their belief, to be centered on a group of men they call the Governing Body instead of on Christ. Probably we're not nearly as far apart as it may seem.
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True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?
by Finkelstein inmuch as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.
such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.
i would say convincingly yes, no question.
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F,
Obviously, you can't step away from ad hominem.
Slim,
I respect your comment. Practice and written word often differ within the Watchtower organization. My experience beyond what the Watchtower has said rests with a Witness relative who supported a child care agency in India which was not associated with Witnesses at all. I'm not aware of anyone making an adverse comment. And F is right that no Witness would donate to a religious charity.
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True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?
by Finkelstein inmuch as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.
such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.
i would say convincingly yes, no question.
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F,
That's BS. The real issue is that you want to paint your former associates as wicked and will say anything, no matter how incorrect, to do so.
The statement on charities is plain. Witnesses benefit from some of them. Some of them are faulty.