Posts by vienne

english translation is via bing translate.. 5.0 of 5 estrellasun unique and indispensable historical book, but in englishseptember 15, 2016format: soft coverin fact it is a two-part work on the origins of the group today known as "jehovah's witnesses", and the one that has been published is the first section, which covers mainly from 1870 to 1879..

vienne

This review of Separate Identity come from Amazon-Spain. English translation is via Bing Translate.

5.0 of 5 EstrellasUn unique and indispensable historical book, but in English
September 15, 2016
Format: Soft cover
In fact it is a two-part work on the origins of the group today known as "Jehovah's Witnesses", and the one that has been published is the first section, which covers mainly from 1870 to 1879.

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HYMNS you will never hear at the Kingdom Hall

by Vanderhoven7 in

do you have examples of hymns you will never hear in kingdom halls in any country.. here are a few of my favorites:.

https://youtu.be/cjivdc-_njs.

https://youtu.be/7gfvl0ef-be .

vienne

... and this one is just plain fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT2LU6cRg5Y

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HYMNS you will never hear at the Kingdom Hall

by Vanderhoven7 in

do you have examples of hymns you will never hear in kingdom halls in any country.. here are a few of my favorites:.

https://youtu.be/cjivdc-_njs.

https://youtu.be/7gfvl0ef-be .

vienne

A shaker hymn, many allusions to scripture. Beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLAnuG1340g

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Watchtower History

by vienne in

some of you read our history blog and have read our first two books.

we're pushing to finish volume 2, separate identity.

a rough draft chapter from volume 2 is up on our blog.

vienne

Perry, Yes, we have a web site. the blog where the chapter is displayed. to see more click on the 'older posts' button at the bottom of the page. The blog is very rich in content. We've been adding to it since 2007/8.

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Watchtower History

by vienne in

some of you read our history blog and have read our first two books.

we're pushing to finish volume 2, separate identity.

a rough draft chapter from volume 2 is up on our blog.

vienne

Russell never met White, and they never attended the same Church. Russell was a one faith/ age to come believer, never a seventh day adventist.

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Watchtower History

by vienne in

some of you read our history blog and have read our first two books.

we're pushing to finish volume 2, separate identity.

a rough draft chapter from volume 2 is up on our blog.

vienne

Some of you read our history blog and have read our first two books. We're pushing to finish volume 2, Separate Identity. A rough draft chapter from volume 2 is up on our blog. This is a temporary post. If you are interested in an academic treatment of Watch Tower history, you will, I hope, find this interesting.

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/

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Can you help with this?

by vienne in

i need a scan of this: the apocalyptic interpretation of history of american premillennial groups, phd dissertation by carl ludwigson, 1944. if you have it, please contact me..

vienne

yes, please. I do still need a copy.

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What crime should elders report?

by kramer in

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so, i am trying to get my head around what the right position of elders should be when they come across crime is.. i think i get the issuess around clergy confidentiality - and how that might potentially be breached when they talk about it to other elders, let alone the police.. but if people are saying that elders - or clergy of another faith should report crime to the police when it is confessed to the, then where are the boundaries.. so if someone says they should report to police on a confessed example of child abuse, that's one thing.. how about reporting to police consensual sex between a 19year old and 15 year old - which is statutory rape in the uk.

how about criminal fraud if they come across it.

assault on a congregant?.

vienne

It may seem like a 'fine distinction' but aren't elders just clergy? They aren't civil authority. So while 'sin' may be reported to them, the police should be contacted first if crime is involved. If we bypass our civil obligations, the consequences rest on us. Theocratic Government is a myth, a false name for church authority. Go to the civil authorities first, and then, if you feel so compelled, to church authority.