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Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

Sparky,
Your comment is useful to me. Would you please tell me what years you were at Bethel so I can put this in context? If you do not want to put that in a public post you can PM me. thanks
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Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

family is family?
That's a really broad definition. I don't know any of my 'family' beyond my grandparents' [both sides] cousins and I do not consider more distant relations as 'family', though we are genetically related. As a historian, I'm interested in the connections that molded personality and events. Some connections, especially with ideas, are ages long. In forthcoming volume 2 of our Separate Identity, we connect Russellite beliefs with a trail of ideas back to the 17th Century. But what Russell's great great great grandparents did has no traceable effect on him.
On the Austro-German side of my family you can find people who ruled most of Europe. But that's so distant that if it affects my thinking I would not know how. Interestingly though, there is a long line of writers among my ancestors. These include my dad, my great grandfather who was also an artist, back to a 17th Century man who wrote on religious topics. Did my genetics impel me to become a writer? Did the fact that my mom, a grand aunt and others were teachers turn me into an educator? How would one prove that?
N.H. Knorr did not made soup. He became a manager, an executive of a religious publishing house and head of a minor religion. Did his distant relations' ability to form a food company translate into Nathan Knorr's administrative ability? There's no way to prove that. Any conclusion would be mere speculation.
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Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

If so, it is so distant that it did not affect Nathan Knorr, and while I can trace his father's financial interests, I can find no connection to Knorr foods. On the American side of my family I share a connection to Rockefeller's father. But that's back in the early days of the American republic. I do not know any of the living Rockefellers, I do not have their money [alas]; and I am in no way swayed by or influenced by their opinions.
A connection that distant is meaningless.
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Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

I use them as a base for other things ... but still no relation to N. H. Knorr.
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Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

No relationship between Knorr's family and the soup company.
55
Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

Added some more Knorr family information to our blog. See the link above.
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What are your favorite musical scores in film?
by LoveUniHateExams in
1. social
2. entertainment
hi guys!.

this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.

here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
vienne

Favorite? Hard to say. Like music I do. But the condensation of Beethoven's 9th for this movie is spectacular.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkj0TeZeZuo
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Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

NewB, total nonsense. N. H. Knorr lived in the Allentown PA area through all his youth, attending the high school there. He was raised in the Reformed Church in Allentown, not the Hitler youth. He worked part time as a retail clerk when in his teens and attending school.
Gorb, Someone sent me a genealogy of the family. It suggests they came from Denmark originally. Or at least some of his ancestors did. On the other hand, the family attended the Dutch Reformed Church. I don't know at this point. But I will follow up on your comment.
55
Knorr Family
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..
vienne

For a secondary project, I need basic biography of N. H. Knorr's parents and brother and sister. We have some details, which I have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/
If you can add to this, please do.
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Door-to-door preaching as surveillance
by john.prestor in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i wanted to share some thoughts about jehovah's witnesses and their door-to-door preaching.

door-to-door preaching is supposedly about gathering converts, but in fact, as we frequently discuss, doesn't actually bring that many "sheep-like ones" in.

i want to suggest that a second meaning (what we call the latent meaning in academia) is facilitating surveillance of the congregants who attend some congregation.
vienne

We will include a chapter on the development of personal evangelism in the Russell era in vol. 2. of Separate Identity. It is a work in progress, but I've posted the first part of that chapter in rough draft on our history blog:
https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/