Other than the Watch Tower Society {seldom cooperative} there are Watchtower collections in New York Public Library, The Library of Congress, some college libraries such as UC Santa Barbara. Access is directly to the Library of Congress or through https://www.worldcat.org/ or your local library's Interlibrary Loan system.
Posts by vienne
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Is old Watchtower literature being preserved by any particular entity?
by Etude ini read a recent post from mickbobcat about how expensive some of the old watchtower literature for sale is.
is there a group or entity that is working to digitize or somehow preserve the old literature, giving others the ability to research them?.
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Would it be right to post Memorial Zoom codes?
by ExCircuitOverseer ini have come into possession of memorial zoom meeting codes for tonight that cannot be traced back to me.
i will not be attending.
what are your thoughts on posting these codes so activists can join tonight and maybe say something?
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vienne
I is unethical to disrupt a religious meeting, even one we think harmful or just wrong headed.
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Controversy Early Day's Watchtower
by vienne insome of you may be interested in this: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-watch-tower-and-koreshan-unity.html.
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vienne
It's not my work. It's that of one of the blog editors. But it is fascinating.
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Controversy Early Day's Watchtower
by vienne insome of you may be interested in this: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-watch-tower-and-koreshan-unity.html.
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vienne
I have no idea how I ended up with duplicate posts. Maybe remove one of them?
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Early Days Watchtower Controversy
by vienne insome of you may be interested in this article: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.
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vienne
Some of you may be interested in this article: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/
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Controversy Early Day's Watchtower
by vienne insome of you may be interested in this: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-watch-tower-and-koreshan-unity.html.
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vienne
Some of you may be interested in this: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-watch-tower-and-koreshan-unity.html
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Watchtower fined in Belgium
by Vanderhoven7 injehovah's witnesses in belgium have to pay €12k fine for shunning policy.
news.
you have probably heard of the trial going on in belgium about the shunning policy of jws.
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vienne
Cite the page in the Watchtower or a letter from them that says they 'ditched' him for anything.
Who cares what the Watchtower says about 'dedication.' That has no effect on the facts. One can leave anytime. You may not like the consequences of leaving, but that is the fact.
You continue to post non sequetars as proof of something. Non sequetars prove nothing; they only give the appearance of argument without logical argument.
You continue to use ad hominem toward Introvigne (naïve at best and the cynical ploy) without refuting him. Typical of some on this board. I am not surprised.
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Report Card : How’s President Biden Doing?
by minimus ini give him an f for falling down on the job..
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vienne
He's falling down on the job.
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Watchtower fined in Belgium
by Vanderhoven7 injehovah's witnesses in belgium have to pay €12k fine for shunning policy.
news.
you have probably heard of the trial going on in belgium about the shunning policy of jws.
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vienne
That right, the right to choose for one's self, already exists for Jehovah's Witnesses. A religious authority cannot remove it. That Witnesses believe they must abide by 1 Corinthians 5:11 means that the majority will choose not to talk to expelled members. The issue here is that being disfellowshipped is an unhappy and hurtful experience. You don't like it. I would not like it. But the decision as to how to deal with a former member, even a family member remains in the individuals hands.
A political party tells its members how to vote and what to think. Many cross party lines, rejecting the dictates of party officials. The choice is in the individual member's hands no matter what party reaction is. In the USA Republicans who do not toe the right wing line are called RINOS - Republicans in Name Only. But the most that can be done is to rant. A religious association can have stricter rules, but your decision to abide by them or not remains yours. If this were not true, those here who were disfellowshipped would never and could never have abandoned Watchtower rules. In life there are no decisions without consequences.
Reasserting that there are many suicides is not proof. I would like to see some solid proof.
"But if someone else tells you who you can speak to, or associate with, or be friends with, that crosses a line to being a hate crime." How is that? If you attend a school or college, on enrolment you agree to abide by certain rules. The administrators have the right to enforce those rules. Your choice is to abide by them or leave. Is that a hate crime? When we're young, our parents may lay down more or less strict rules. Is it a hate crime if they limit our associations?
You're reaching for a definition of disfellowshipping that relieves you of the consequences for your choices. The exercise of the right to choose our associations is not a hate crime, even if the results are unpleasant. It is a basic right in a democratic society.
Another thought: Do you seriously think that individual Witnesses would stop observing I Corinthians 5 no matter what a court says? They are Bible believers, interpreting it literally. They will remain such despite any court decision.
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Watchtower fined in Belgium
by Vanderhoven7 injehovah's witnesses in belgium have to pay €12k fine for shunning policy.
news.
you have probably heard of the trial going on in belgium about the shunning policy of jws.
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vienne
"It has resulted in a large number committing suicide."
I would find it difficult to prove this. Can you?