Selena is either a liar or delusional. None of her story makes sense, and she acts irrationally. But some x-witnesses will grasp at anything.
Posts by vienne
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27Selena Vertolomo "The Mower" and her sister Sherrie call into The Six Screens TIME STAMP 2:53
by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER inselena vertolomo, former jehovah's witnesses who was sexually abused in watchtower, went to visit tony morris in north carolina.
selena and her sister call in and explain their position.
callers dial in from around the world and ask plenty of questions.
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Selena Vertolomo "The Mower" and her sister Sherrie call into The Six Screens TIME STAMP 2:53
by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER inselena vertolomo, former jehovah's witnesses who was sexually abused in watchtower, went to visit tony morris in north carolina.
selena and her sister call in and explain their position.
callers dial in from around the world and ask plenty of questions.
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vienne
I don't know if he had blood transfusions, but given his known illness, probably not. In mom's notes there is an interview of an aged Witness doctor who told her that in the 1940s a patient of his refused blood citing the verse in acts. He wrote to the Watchtower Society seeking support for giving the man a transfusion. Return mail from the WT said the man was right, and the blood transfusion articles in The Watchtower followed. I presume this is accurate.
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How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses
by vienne inmy grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
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vienne
I've read the Shepherding book and missed that. Can you find the page for me?
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How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses
by vienne inmy grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
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vienne
Many of my family are Jehovah's Witnesses. My grandmother, an immigrant from Austria, was. Two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are Witnesses. So is my grand uncle. The all seem happy with their choice. I talked on the phone today with a elderly man related only through marriage. I haven't seen him since I was a child, but someone told me he was lonely and in ill health. We talked for about three hours. His story saddens me and makes me angry.
He was a congregation servant, then an elder, becoming seriously ill in the early 1970s, but continued as an elder into the 1980s when he resigned. There's a story there that involved a circuit overseer's bad behavior. I traced down this man. He became a District Overseer, and then apparently was disfellowshipped or left. There is an anti-Witness post by him online. He is, it seems, now dead That's a bit irrelevant here, because my sorta relative rode that out. His explanation: "Humility is important. I might have not deserved what I experienced, but probably deserved other counsel. It all evens out." (This is not something I find palatable, but it is his view.)
His health and life went down hill. While mostly house bound, he managed to attend meetings for some time, but often family would take him home early. Finally, he was not able to attend. In the past twenty-five years he has received two home visits from elders. Two came to insist on field service reports even though he was frequently bed bound and mostly house bound. The other was a Circuit Overseer who spent his time talking about some old prospector who claimed anointing. My sorta relative is a partaker and has been for decades. But how that was relevant, I do not know. That's it. No phone calls, no visits.
Relatives visit him, and that's something. But what ever happened to 'you must positively know the appearance of the flock"? How often are the sick and infirm neglected. Is that a 'thing' among Witnesses? Frequent or not it is shameful.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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vienne
Dear Lord. Or as my mom used to say: "Dear LORD and little rabbits!" So it turns out that Lloyd isn't simply a narcissist with anti-social behavior and boring as heck, but he's terminally stupid and vain.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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vienne
Among Lloyd's current problems is boredom. He creates boredom. Total, sleep indusing, boredom.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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vienne
of course there's a connection between Lloyd's behavior and 'wokeness.' You're using this forum to support your own leftist views - and behavior. Simon is right. you're wrong.
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vienne
CoG,
utter nonsence. of course they believe in heaven. they just believe a limitted number all called there.
belief in a restored earthly paradise extends back to post apastolic times.
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Article: Spain: Jehovah’s Witnesses Win Important Case Against “El Mundo”
by Tahoe inlink to article .
a spanish court ordered the newspaper to publish the reply of the jehovah’s witnesses to a defamatory 2022 article.
the court found the newspaper has been fed false information by an association of disgruntled former witnesses and has uncritically published it.. .
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vienne
What I see from your comments is that you disagree with the court's decision as Introvigne reports it. Disagreement does not mean he lied, only that he sees matters differently than you do. I do not see any suggestion that the watchtower pays him. He's a Sociologist. It's what they do.
If you have solid evidence that the Watchtower pays him, please do share it.
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Article: Spain: Jehovah’s Witnesses Win Important Case Against “El Mundo”
by Tahoe inlink to article .
a spanish court ordered the newspaper to publish the reply of the jehovah’s witnesses to a defamatory 2022 article.
the court found the newspaper has been fed false information by an association of disgruntled former witnesses and has uncritically published it.. .
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vienne
I've had very few dealings with Massimo Introvigne. I do read his bitter winter web page. Where has he lied? I'm very interested.
And what proof is there that they Watchtower Society finances his work?