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  2025**02-February**S-147**Memorial**and Campaign!

  by Atlantis in

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  2025-s-147-announcements english-memorial and memorial campaign.

  ( i am still waiting to receive it in other languages.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/8307b8ef .

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  vienne

  The upload site is spammy. Can you upload to a better site?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Watching Lloyd deteriorate is fascinating. This would make an interesting basis for a dissertation. But, thankfully, I'm a historian and not a psychologist.
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  U.K to remove time limit for Abuse Cases.

  by Phizzy in

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  2. child-abuse

  at present the u.k has a preposterous rule that cases of csa can only be brought within three years of the victim turning 18.. this time limit meant that many cases did not go to court, as the poor victims did not feel able to talk about their ordeals at that age.

  the time limit of 3 years will be removed, at last, as was recommended by the independent inquiry in to csa back in 2022.. kim harrison, president of the association of personal injury lawyers, said the three-year deadline was "wholly inappropriate".. "it will now be the burden of defendants to prove that the passage of time has created an unfair trial, rather than on the victim or survivor to prove a fair trial is possible," she said.. j.w.

  paedophiles will now be brought to justice.

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  vienne

  Unlimited time is a great idea. Even if it makes Watchtower lawyers sweat.

  My only concern is conflating the actions of clergy with those of congregants. The media does not say a Baptist father abused his daughter and has been sentenced. The media should focus on Elders and other appointed individuals.
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  WT History

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those interested in watchtower history: new photos and such on uncle b's history blog:.

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

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  vienne

  Biahi,

  What a kind offer. However, I no longer provide my physical address since an uninvited argumentative, probably a bit mental, 'guest' showed up at our front door. A nice scan would be great.

  Annie
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  WT History

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those interested in watchtower history: new photos and such on uncle b's history blog:.

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

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  vienne

  For those interested in Watchtower history: New photos and such on Uncle B's history blog:

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  vienne

  does he have a pending warrent in the UK?
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  American Primeval and the Mormons

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  just finished season 1 on netflix.. holy crap, i had no idea of the history of the mormons!.

  i always thought they were like the jws, or the quakers, but they were full on fascists committing massacres.. i'm sure they are hating having more people be aware of their past, but i gotta say, it is more event-filled than the jw history..

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  In my 3rd Great Grandmother's autobiography, she tells of warnings against Mormon violence as she and her family crossed the plains in 1854. Also she mentions something about Mormon violence in California. Interesting, but I've never followed up on it.
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  American Primeval and the Mormons

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  just finished season 1 on netflix.. holy crap, i had no idea of the history of the mormons!.

  i always thought they were like the jws, or the quakers, but they were full on fascists committing massacres.. i'm sure they are hating having more people be aware of their past, but i gotta say, it is more event-filled than the jw history..

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  vienne

  Witnesses aren't Millerites. They're a modern version of 17-19th Century British and Continental Literalism. Big difference. Much of Russellite doctrine came from what was then called "age to come." That's not Adventism. That's Literalism. See my mom's introduction to Separate Identity, vol 2.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  vienne

  I noticed that a recently completed PhD thesis cited him as a source. That is academic moronism.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  vienne

  WingC,

  Crude, rude, and spot on.