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  Rutherford's Grave

  by vienne in

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  2. beliefs

  excellent research into j. f. rutherford's burial and grave site.. https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/09/judge-rutherfords-grave.html.

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  vienne

  Excellent research into J. F. Rutherford's burial and grave site.

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/09/judge-rutherfords-grave.html
  
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

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  2. beliefs

  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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  Built into the laws of many countries is freedom of associations. We get to choose our associates. That means we can choose whom to avoid. Someone else can say, "oh, they're bad associates," but the choice to associate or not is an individual one. No one shoots a JW for following church policy. It's not a crime in any sense when someone won't speak to us. We may not like it, but it is not criminal.
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  JW Elder Sentenced for CSA

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.

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  1 Timothy 5:22 says never appoint an elder or ministerial servant 'hastily' or share in another's sins.

  In that light, those elders who recommended this monster, the Circuit Overseer who approved, and who ever at Bethel rubber stamped his appointment are guilty. Will they be removed from office? Should be. Probably will not be.
  
  
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  Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

  by MebyonKernow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

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  Maybe, that's nonsense. When proof, such as it was, was finally presented, then it was time to comment. And everyone who says the Watchtower 'joined' the UN is a twit. Only a nation state can join the UN. Most comments about the Watchtower's connection to the UN are off the mark and fail thereby.

  Any claim that cannot be proved makes a rational person doubt both it and the person posting it.

  It's a logic flaw to suggest one event proves another without an overt connection or firm, documented proof.
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  Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

  by MebyonKernow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

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  When my mom and I attended meetings a woman claimed that all of the elders, especially one of them, had sexually abused her child. No proof, and eventually she went into a mental health facility. That has left me cautious about unsupported claims.

  And to the person who 'down voted' my previous post, "You're an idiot."
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  Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

  by MebyonKernow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

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  It is foolish to post things like this when there is no proof yet. It opens this site and every other one that posts this to a defamation suit. Let's have a little caution here.
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  trolls?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  didn't know where to post this topic so put it under entertainment....what do you thinks trolls are wanting to accomplish on this forum?

  are they in it for entertainment?

  are they doing research for the 9 faithful frauds?

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  seems to me the original post is a troll.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  I would like to see is patrons drop to zero. Won't happen, of course. There are always those who disregard moral and ethical considerations. And there is a strong probability that some of his supporters were disfellowshipped for folly far worse than his. They'll always stick around, at least until they become so bored with his nonsense that they find another voice to support.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  Look back at Lloyd-boy's past interactions here, I ran across him scolding one of mom's real life friends who was on here as oldgoat. I remember oldgoat. We used to meet him in Portland, Oregon, for coffee and snacks, and he and mom would talk history. Two former professors talking shop. Anyway OG commented on a photo that Lloyd thought showed Watchtower hypocrisy because the convention hall was adorned with US flags. Not only was this long before the flag salute issue, but the flags were left over from a previous event. He ranted at OG for the correction.

  That's Lloyd's style. No one must question him in any fashion or doubt anything he might have claimed as true. Lloyd is boring. And I think that and his mental issues are his greatest fault.
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  Ecclesiastes 9:5 -"the dead know nothing at all"

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the narrator of the book of ecclesiastes had very little knowledge of many things that jesus and his apostles later preached.

  the author does not make statements, but only wonders (thinks, observes, often raises questions, and leaves them open).

  he looked at the world based on the law of moses and found nothing but vanity, as the earthly reward promised in the law did not always accompany good deeds and earthly punishment for evil deeds.

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  Either Ecclesiastes is inspired or not. You cant have it both ways. If inspired, it is the inerrant word of God. If not, your Bible is corrupt and the whole falls with the part. If inspired, then the dead truly know not anything, or Holy Spirit lied.

  Your attempt at emulating Jesuitical thought is exceedingly poor.