While browsing through the latest "Tower" mag I came accross a article about France and how the authorities are giving the dubs trouble and not giving them tax exempt status.
What do they do? Do the remember the ole "pay Ceasars things to Ceasar and gods things to god" rule?
Absolutely not! They go out and distribute a special tract all about how France's freedoms are being eroded away. Hmmmmm, sounds a little Christendomish to me. It is funny how they tell the rank and file to not be involved with politics...unless of couse money is involved. I am wondering if this distribution of a political tract about taxes counted for field service hours. Does anybody in France know?
Anyway, the article is in the September 1st Watchtower and if I was a better typist I would transcribe it here for you. It would make a great diet program as I just wanted to loose my lunch when I read it.
Nick of the "I want to puke" class.
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Taxes+France+Tract+New W.T.=YUK!!!
by NikL inwhile browsing through the latest "tower" mag i came accross a article about france and how the authorities are giving the dubs trouble and not giving them tax exempt status.. what do they do?
do the remember the ole "pay ceasars things to ceasar and gods things to god" rule?.
absolutely not!
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"Experience" from AZ DC (Bomb Threat)
by NikL insome may have heard about the bomb threat at the district convention in arizona last week.. here is a report from a dub that was there.... .
here is my report on our adventure that i sent to friends.
returned home from our exciting district convention.. we were with a different group than usual this time and saw many friends =.
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Some may have heard about the bomb threat at the District convention in Arizona last week.
Here is a report from a dub that was there...Here is my report on our adventure that I sent to friends. We just
returned home from our exciting district convention.
We were with a different group than usual this time and saw many friends =
that we have not seen in years. It was a great reunion.
But we had some excitement on Sunday. About ten minutes into the drama,
the convention overseer, walked onto the stage right through the actors.
A microphone was hoisted onto the stage in front of him, the drama tape
was stopped and he proceeded to say, "We have a very important =
announcement to make, at this time we must evacuate the building!". The
convention chairman was so calm and assuring in his tone and directions
it made it so easy to follow his directions.You could have heard a pin drop. We were then instructed to please stay
where we were at the time. We would receive instructions from the =
attendants. We were told that we want to do this in an organized =
manner, we will leave the building by sections out the north exits only,
do not use the side exits. The bottom floor will leave by the lower
exits, upper levels from the top exits. We were told to go to the north
of the building complex. Two smaller auditoriums in that area were to
be filled first with the elderly and those handicap to get them out of
the heat. We were told not to take our lunch bags with us because they
would be checked by police. Take only our personal belongings. =20We were encouraged to stay calm and exit as quickly as possible. SO OUT
WE WENT. The group was exceptionally quiet, despite the anxiety. You
could see the anticipation on the faces. As we went out a wall of =
attendants directed us farther away from the building. Eventually most
all were told to go inside the 2 smaller auditoriums as we entered in
police searched all bags. Some of the friends were in a little panic =
because of their children. One family had let their children sit down =
in front of the stage for the drama, while the parents sat up high, we =
were evacuated out different areas, in was easy to lose some one in a =
crowd of 7,721 all moving as a flood of people. One sister had been =
walking with a baby that wasn't hers, she was also evacuated a different =
way, and the parents had no idea where the baby went.Extra chairs were set up in the smaller auditoriums, even on the stage =
to fit everyone inside out of the heat. The friends began to sing, some =
from the audience would hold up a paper with the number. Most had =
forgotten their songbooks in the moment so they sang from memory. We =
would be interrupted from time to time with an update. It was decided =
that the Watchtower summary could be covered while we waited. We =
started with song and prayer. Since there wasn't any music the chairman =
had to lead the song. The brother covering the Watchtower summary had =
left his notes in the convention center. Someone handed him a =
Watchtower and proceeded, he did a fantastic job. Of course the subject =
couldn't be more appropriate. "If God is For Us Who Will Be Against =
Us?" We were all living this material at the moment.It was so encouraging to see how obedient the group was to the =
instruction given. And how calm everyone remained. The attendant =
department went into action, evacuating, moving, relocating and re- =
seating. They had a big job this time. The fire department brought in =
water bottles to pass out. The cleaning department quickly set up trash =
containers.
The time seemed to be impossible to keep tract of in the excitement, but =
after several hours we were told that we could go back into the =
convention hall, about 2:15. P.M. Everyone was starving. Time was =
given for lunch. The group was really glad to be back in the convention =
center and the opening song was sung with real enthusiasm. The Drama =
started again from the beginning. The final talk began at 5:07.The official report was that the Tucson police received a threat against =
our convention. The administration decided to evacuate so the police =
could investigate thoroughly and have no danger to our safety. 7,721 =
people evacuated peacefully in 13 minutes.
Les works in the accounting department. The Sunday count is always the =
longest. This time was long and late. We left Tucson at 8:00 PM. =
This is one convention we will never forget.We reflected on how valuable our training is at smaller assemblies. =
Administration, attendant department, cleaning. Our learning to work =
together and obey instructions is so valuable when we as a large group =
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Did 60 Minutes do a show on Jehovahs' Witnesses?
by Preston ini read a statement in the watchtower that 60 minutes did a report on jehovah's witnesses.
does anyone know about this?
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Christmas Star = Satan?!
by reagan_oconnor ini was talking with my husband the other day about the jw's belief that the "christmas star" that guided the magi to christ was the doings of satan.
he didn't believe me; this is what i found in the "my book of bible stories" (copied verbatim from cd-rom).
who do you think made that new star to shine?
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The fact is there is NO scripture that says Satan made the star shine. Now as far as "you knows" logic about the Babylonians being pagans, this is true. However, the bible asls says that god made contact with them and told them that Herod was trying to trick them into leading him to the christ child. After presenting their gifts and worshiping Jesus they departed by a different route so as to not lead Herod to the baby. It sounds like these "astrologers" though they were pagan also found some favor with God.
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Anyone read Orwellian World Of Jehovahs Witnesses?
by NikL inthe first "apostate book i read was "the orwellian world of jehovahs witnesses".
i found it in my local librairy and covertly checked it out.
it was a very interesting read.
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The first "apostate book I read was "The Orwellian World of Jehovahs witnesses". I found it in my local librairy and covertly checked it out. It was a very interesting read. It quoted very heavelly from "Crisis of Concience" and it was from reading the Orwellian world that I found out about crisis of concience.
The Orwellian world showed the parrallell between life in the org and life in the fictional Oceana from George Orwells "1984"
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WT CD's
by closer2fine ini have seen several mentions of watchtower cd's.
where might i obtain one?
closer.
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NikL
I have thought about getting one myself. If I am able to obtain one, I will gladly make the data available...perhaps online at an FTP site or something. Yes this is piracy! I can't think of a greater thing to pirate that the crap on a Watchtower publication either.
One thing I was thinking though, is it possible to have it install tracking software so the tower could get an idea of ones surfing habbits? Seems to me like there would be that chance. -
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July 22nd Asleep! on volunteers.
by NikL inhas anyone seen the july 22nd awake?
it is all about volunteers.
how wonderful and charitable the watchtower society is!
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Has anyone seen the July 22nd Awake? It is all about volunteers. How wonderful and charitable the Watchtower society is! They even donated a bunch of stuff to the poor starving chillins in Akfria.
The thing I noticed is that they are talking about charitable works now and sounding alot like the old morman commercials or the old tv spots for catholic charities. This in of it self is not a bad thing. I think it's important to help others but the society is using the old missionary trick of giving charity as a lure to these poor saps in 3rd world nations who get offered aid only to find there are strings attached, "we are helping you because we are holy, wouldn't you like to be holy and keep getting help? You need to join our cult".
They even have eduaction programs where they help the poor to read...society publications of course! Got to keep those subscriptions up after all.
I suppose the charitable works are yet another way the dubs are becoming mainstream. Or maybe it keeps governments in certain lands out of their hair. At any rate I don't think, from the organisational level anyway, that the society is doing it out of the pure goodness of it's heart.
Of course, the ultimate charitable work is the door to door preaching as the article "Volunteer work with lasting benefits" points out.
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A report you may be interested in
by NikL ini am not sure where this origionated but it has been making the rounds on jw e mail so i thought i would post it for your inspection.... a report you will be interested in.... .
brother steve lett read an announcement from the teaching committee this.
morning.. on saturday, june 23 the country of peru was struck by an earthquake.. sadly,.
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I am not sure where this origionated but it has been making the rounds on JW e mail so I thought I would post it for your inspection...
A report you will be interested in...
Brother Steve Lett read an announcement from the Teaching Committee this
morning.On Saturday, June 23 the country of Peru was struck by an earthquake.
Sadly,
two of our sisters have died and one has been hospitalized with serious
injuries. Three homes belonging to our brothers were completely
destroyed,
and a number of others were damaged. No Kingdom Halls were destroyed,
although a neighbor's property fell on the roof of one Kingdom Hall
causing
minor damage.
Let us keep our brothers in Peru in our prayers with full confidence =
that
Jehovah will care for his people there.Brother Don Adams gave a report last Wednesday on his recent zone visit
to
Russia and Europe. One sister in Finland set a wonderful example of
standing
firm in the face of persecution. This sister's opposition came from her
unbelieving husband. On one occasion when she had a talk on the
Theocratic
Ministry School, he threatened her with a knife. She expressed her
determination to go give her talk that night, and as she turned to leave
the
house, her husband threw the knife at her. It sank two inches into her
back.
Did that stop her from going to the meeting and giving the talk? No. It
wasn't until after her talk that another sister noticed blood on the
sister's dress, which had been covered by a shawl when she was on stage.
The
sister returned home to her husband that night. Seeing her unwavering,
determined stand, he stopped opposing her.Brother David Splane mentioned an interesting point in morning worship
last
Tuesday. In the past, when reference has been made to responsible
brothers
in the early days, such as Brothers Russell, Rutherford, and Knorr, they
have often been identified as "President of the Watch Tower Society."
However, in line with adjustments made at last year's Annual Meeting,
emphasis in recent months has been placed on the spiritual role of these
brothers, as opposed to simply their position in a legal corporation. =
Now
these brothers may be referred to as members of the Governing Body, or =
as
ones taking the lead among the Bible Students.
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Fake Blood?
by NikL inapparently the dubs are excited about a news story circulating around about artificial blood.
i have received 2 e mails containing the following.... 19/06/2001 12:13 - (sa).
fake blood to flow soon in us .
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Apparently the Dubs are excited about a news story circulating around about artificial blood. I have received 2 e mails containing the following...
19/06/2001 12:13 - (SA)
Fake blood to flow soon in US
Los Angeles - The dream of the medical
industry to create artificial blood that would be universally compatible and
readily available is about to be realized, according to a report on Monday
in the Los Angeles Times.The report quoted experts as saying that the so-called fake blood could hit
the market within two years, easing the blood shortage, saving lives during
medical emergencies and further reducing the potential dangers from
infectious diseases carried by donor blood.The paper said that in the US alone more than a half-dozen blood substitute
products are in development with some well advanced in the preclinical
phase. The first application for FDA approval is expected sometime this
summer.The fake blood will not be able to replace the real thing however. It can
only perform the job of red blood cells, and does not last long in the body.
But it could prove invaluable during emergencies, preventing
life-threatening shock, a sudden, precipitous drop in blood flow that
deprives the body of oxygen; on the battlefield; in those who refuse
transfused blood, such as Jehovah's Witnesses; and in patients with such
blood incompatibilities as sickle cell anemia."The field is really at a very advanced stage, the last stages of
development," Abdu I Alayash, who heads the research programme on blood
substitutes for the Food and Drug Administration, was quoted as saying.
"There is a real excitement."Unlike donated blood, artificial blood has a longer shelf life, is unlikely
to be tainted with infectious agents, can be stored at room temperature and
doesn't need to be matched to a recipient's blood type