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  The WTBTS exposes itself about shunning!

  by The Searcher in

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  "does religious conversion dishonor family traditions or customs?

  this need not be the case.

  the bible encourages respect for all, regardless of their religion.

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  NikL

  they are morally disgusting, but they are doing nothing illegal at all.

  So true scratchme1010
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  Anyone else watching the Leah Remini series "Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath" on A&E?

  by NikL in

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  my wife and i started to watch this last night and have covered only 2 episodes so far but it is really interesting.. there are so many similarities between scientology and wt.

  not in beliefs of course but in their shunning, of their version of apostates etc.. it was amusing for me to see my active jw wife watch and get all indignant.

  at one point a statement was made that a religion "shouldn't separate families" and she muttered to herself "absolutely not".. i am kind of hoping that jws will watch and see what is being carried on by a high control cult and eventually recognize it in their own lives.

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  My wife and I started to watch this last night and have covered only 2 episodes so far but it is really interesting.

  There are so many similarities between Scientology and WT. Not in beliefs of course but in their shunning, of their version of apostates etc.

  It was amusing for me to see my active JW wife watch and get all indignant. At one point a statement was made that a religion "shouldn't separate families" and she muttered to herself "absolutely not".

  I am kind of hoping that JWs will watch and see what is being carried on by a high control cult and eventually recognize it in their own lives. I know it probably wont. They will probably just criticize and say things like, "I am so glad I have the truth".

  But I can always hope.
  
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  New IBSA Britain Branch Construction Letters

  by wifibandit in

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  december 12, 2016 re: branch relocation project - regional event registration.

  december 5, 2016 to all congregations re: branch construction project.

  december 5, 2016. to all congregations.

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  NikL

  I had a heart to heart with a MS friend of mine and he confessed that he hasn't donated a dime since 2001
  
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  Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

  are the ones that got df more out spoken?

  or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.

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  I asked him if you can be appointed an elder while being an active pedophile and he responded yes.

  Could you elaborate on that a bit?
  
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  Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.

  he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".

  he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.

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  Well, I never got back to the elder and Thursday came and went with no visit:-)

  I appreciate all the comments and support. I'll hold them in my head for next time...god I hope there isn't a next time.
  
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  The movie moment that woke me up.

  by NikL in

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  i can still remember the day.

  sitting in a theater watching the new star trek flick.. they were searching for god and found him...or did they?.

  when this part played before my eyes i literally felt my heart fall.. still powerful after all these years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxvkjav5ik.

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  I quit! 18 hours ago

  So what happened after that NikL? Did you start seeing all the flaws in what you were taught? Did you continue going to meetings?

  I still go to meetings with my active JW wife.

  I've gone into that before here...https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5406409480994816/do-you-still-go-meetings

  I am fortunate in that having been NOT attending so long that my wife doesn't expect much from me and is just glad to have me there with her. She is a lovely person but not really a deep thinker if you know what I mean. She just goes with the flow. I think the face that she smokes pot now might help on that score.

  I've covered that before too :-)...https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4903921795465216/jehovahs-witnesses-marijuana
  
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  The movie moment that woke me up.

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can still remember the day.

  sitting in a theater watching the new star trek flick.. they were searching for god and found him...or did they?.

  when this part played before my eyes i literally felt my heart fall.. still powerful after all these years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxvkjav5ik.

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  NikL

  No NOT new Blondie.

  I saw it in theater when it was new.
  
  
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  The movie moment that woke me up.

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can still remember the day.

  sitting in a theater watching the new star trek flick.. they were searching for god and found him...or did they?.

  when this part played before my eyes i literally felt my heart fall.. still powerful after all these years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxvkjav5ik.

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  NikL

  I can still remember the day. Sitting in a theater watching the new Star Trek flick.

  They were searching for god and Found him...or DID they?

  When this part played before my eyes I literally felt my heart fall.

  Still powerful after all these years.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxvKJAv5Ik
  
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  Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

  are the ones that got df more out spoken?

  or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.

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  NikL

  We told the elders the same thing, that we will keep our thoughts to ourselves and so far the wife and I have not been df'ed although we are very outspoken about never going back.

  I kind of think in the JW mind, being outspoken about NOT going back is completely different than exposing false doctrine...er... I mean tearing down the truth.
  
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  Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

  are the ones that got df more out spoken?

  or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.

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  NikL

  There are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.

  Then there are those that have successfully faded.

  Why the different outcome? Are the ones that got DF more out spoken? Or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?

  I can see nothing in the elders handbook to indicate they must DF someone who is inactive or has left the org in the dust.

  Back in the early 90s when it was discovered I had read "Crisis of Conscience", they had a judicial meeting with me but basically told me to keep my thoughts to myself and they would leave me alone. Maybe that was on account of my active JW wife?
  

  Any thoughts?