i am sure this topic has been brought up many times here but i don't always have the oppertunity to read all the posts so i am going to raise it again.. i went to the meeting the other day with my wife and this came up in the talk.
the speaker saying how improtant it was to have the right bible to get the most out of bible reading.
the right bible being the nwt of course because it uses the divine name which we all know is jehovah...or yahweh.
I am glad I raised this topic! Not only interesting but good for some laughs too.
I belong to the camp that doesn't believe god expects us to call him by a certain proper name but he doesn't get pissed if we do it either. As someone said earlier, "only the small gods do that". LOL
There is seriously some very good reasoning here, has anyone ever tried it on a active JW?
i am sure this topic has been brought up many times here but i don't always have the oppertunity to read all the posts so i am going to raise it again.. i went to the meeting the other day with my wife and this came up in the talk.
the speaker saying how improtant it was to have the right bible to get the most out of bible reading.
the right bible being the nwt of course because it uses the divine name which we all know is jehovah...or yahweh.
I am sure this topic has been brought up many times here but I don't always have the oppertunity to read all the posts so I am going to raise it again.
I went to the meeting the other day with my wife and this came up in the talk. The speaker saying how improtant it was to have the RIGHT bible to get the most out of bible reading. The right bible being the NWT of course because it uses the divine name which we all know is Jehovah...or Yahweh. He went on to tell how important and respectful it is to use the divine name.
That got me thinking about it and I got to wondering.
First, how can they be so sure of what the name is since the only letters are YHWH in the old Hebrew? They add the vowels to make it work. Well, what if they are the wrong vowels? Maybe gods name is Yehawha...or maybe Yohewaho. Who Knows?
Secondly, Why is it more respectful to use his name when praying to the heavenly father? When I address my father I don't use his proper name I use his title...Dad. If I used his name it would have been very disrespectful.
Any thoughts?
new strategy to da/df millions who have left.
i'm wondering if there isn't a new policy of da'ing all those who no longer attend or are inactive "publishers" (find that in the bible!).
i've read a number of threads on this board whereby people are now being hunted-down, nazi-fashion, if when queried, "are you one of jw?
I went to the meeting with my active JW wife yesterday and her book study conductor came up after and arranged for a little meeting later in the week. When I came up he asked if I would be there. I am the inactive one not my wife so either they are calling on everyone or they are calling on her because they are concerned that she is married to an inactive one or maybe they wanted to interrogate her about me. Either way he made it sound like I was not the one they wanted to speak to.
I am not sure what will be the fallout but I will probably be there Thursday morning when they stop by.
Anyine have any ideas?
Nick
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just curious, anybody from california or the central valley area ???.
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I am here in the heart of the central valley...(though some may say groin) beautiful land of congress men and dissappearing interns, Gallo wine, Foster farms dairy and graffitti night...yes it's Modesto California!
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i heard through the grapevine that the lawyer for the watchtower that represented them before the supreme court on the right to preach in that little town in ohio is supposed to be on larry king live tonight on cnn.. just thought i would give a heads up in case it is true.. nick
I heard through the grapevine that the lawyer for the Watchtower that represented them before the supreme court on the right to preach in that little town in Ohio is supposed to be on Larry King live tonight on CNN.
Just thought I would give a heads up in case it is true.
Nick
has anyone else seen the july 8th awake!?.
it's cover features a picture of a police man and a young boy and asks the question "police, why do we need them"?.
does anyone else see the irony of this in light of the dateline publicity?
Has anyone else seen the July 8th Awake!?
It's cover features a picture of a police man and a young boy and asks the question "Police, Why do we need them"?
Does anyone else see the irony of this In light of the Dateline publicity? LOL
apparantly it has been circulating that barabara anderson was wearing a cross in her interview :) (not true).
any others been going around?
The story I heard just yesterday is that Erica was disfellowshipped for sexual imorality. Supposedly someone knew someone who knew her yadda yadda...classic urban legend stuff.
this may have been posted already.
if so i am sorry.. i received this e mail tonight.
it seems to be making the rounds among jws.
She was obviously a headstrong woman looking into things that were not her business to see. One can see how her rebelious attitude led her to leave Gods wonderful organsiation ;-)
this may have been posted already.
if so i am sorry.. i received this e mail tonight.
it seems to be making the rounds among jws.
This may have been posted already. If so I am sorry.
I received this e mail tonight. It seems to be making the rounds among JWs.
I have no idea who Hans Bluehs is but the letter reads as follows...
If you go to WWW.jw-media.org you will see that brothers statement
exactly as it was said on the program. He was indeed representing the
society in this regard.
Hans Bluehs wrote:
I agree with your view-carpe diem.The program was informative for us
a servants of Jehovah. The young lady (Garza) may be a victim as
indicated by the court of the land, however her statements about the
elders views do not have the ring of truth. No elder I have ever served
with or have ever known would state that going to the police to report a
criminal offense would be df'd. There is no such offense for df'ing no
matter how far between the lines you read. It would be improper for any
of us to question a judicial committee decision as to whether they acted
too leniently or extended mercy to a degree beyond which seems
appropriate. However we can rest assured that Jehovah will correct
matters without fail and in a timely fashion. It would seem that the
response from the legal committee member may have been taken out of
context, or that the brother involved spoke out of line with the
official position of the society. The other point that lacked a ring of
truth was that a sister would be involved at Bethel with researching
judicial files to ascertain a statistical pattern. Sisters are not
involved in judicial matters at any level in Jah's organization. Yes we
may face some questions due to this program, however we can stand
upright and in full confidence that our God Jehovah has not allowed a
cover-up. It is possible that brothers or elders have not acted
properly, however this does not detract from the purpose we serve our
God. That is to honor and praise him. Hans
just finished watching dateline.
i was very much impressed.. it didn't make the watchtower look good at all.
i bet.
What got me was the closing words of Stone Phillips about how Bill and the others now face "expulsion" from the church
