Judgerussellford

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  Billions to die at Armageddon?

  by BoogerMan in

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  not according to this verse:.

  (mark 3:28, 29) truly i say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak.

  but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.”.

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  Judgerussellford

  Don't forget that God doesn't desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain repentance. The fact that many jws revel in the fact that they want "worldly" people to die to me would be gross in the eyes of the most high
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  Resistace to going back to meetings

  by truthseeker in

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  lot going on.

  i had a covid divorce last year over zoom.

  not pretty but i got a good deal.. anyway,.

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  I don't think many will physically go back just because of convenience. Since my family no longer attends we just observed a traditional Jewish passover with a traditional sedar and matzah. Enjoyed it thoroughly
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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

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  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  A huge problem with thier interpretation of this prophecy was the date fixed at 607 bce. Even in brother Patons book day dawn (published by watchtower 1880) they used the dates accepted by almost every historian, 536/537 bce. (Hope I remembered that right if I'm wrong please correct me). They used different math in the 1800s to arrive at 1914 but now they use a different interpretation of the 70 weeks and needed a new date. So they shoved 607 in there and its FAR from historically accurate. For this historical truth Carl Olaf Johnson was disfellowshipped but the gb. If I'm remembering anything wrong I accept correction
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  Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

  2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

  are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

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  Judgerussellford

  I think that you get forced to be mentally and morally clean. Thats fine and all but you have to be so strict and there's no room for error. In my experiance at least. When I messed up I was reproved (3 months after being reinstated) and threatened with being df'd again. You can be mentally and moral clean and chose a healthy lifestyle without having doctrine shoved down your through and being shamed and shunned when you mess up
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  What is the harm or downside of being PIMO?

  by PimoElder in

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  what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.

  i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.

  lots of interesting gossip 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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  The downside is being fake. I hated it. Pretending to be something I wasn't. I don't have to pretend anymore and its very freeing. But you have to take your journey at a comfortable pace. And if you never fully leave, just teach people truth in discretion
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  Owe Raymond Franz my life anyone else??

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so imagine a governining body member faithful slave who's uncle wrote the new world translalation bible and predicted 1975 would be armagedon writes a book in 1980 that changed my whole life...thank you raymond franz for setting me and my wife free love this man forever.

  true pioneer!

  👍 love ❤️ .

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  Always wanted to read it. Will add it to my watchtower library soon
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  Jehovah Witnesses lost in Court. Disfellowshipped Sister Reinstated by Court Order?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine the "faithful" jws who are now having to talk to this person by court order or face the consequences----legally.. exjws are spreading the news and now some exjws who have been disfellowshipped for years are starting to research to see if this is an option in their country.

  here are the articles, you need to translate in google.

  https://www.nrk.no/norge/gry-nygard-ble-ekskludert-fra-jehovas-vitner-_-vant-i-lagmannsretten-1.15570621.

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  Would she ever get to comment at any meeting? Or would they always lan over her as a ghost?
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  2022 - 1914 = ?

  by fedup in

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  obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.

  forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.

  the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.

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  1874, 1875, 1876, 1914, 1925, 1975, and as recently as 1989 it was the year 2000. Its funny they still do the same thing without specific dates. "We're in the last days", "its just around the corner", "We're in the Final part, of the FINAL PART, of the last days" comical really
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  Date a JW student

  by Renee86 in

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  can a witness date and court a jw student if he intends to get baptized?

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  Judgerussellford

  Me and my wife were bothe baptized and courting when we asked to be married at the hall. Several brothers turned down our request because we hadn't dated for at least a year. and we eloped in a jewelry store at a mall though we faced silent shunning. Shortly after we both faded out during covid and time of the zoom meetings. 3 years later and were doing fine. In my experiance they can't tell you know but be ready to face persecution for not following guidelines of "divine principles"
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  Pimo's walking out

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
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  is it possible that jw's would get so worn out by watchtower 's bullshit that they would stand up gather their stuff and walk out of a meeting or a convention.

  i can see a small number doing it..

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  Judgerussellford

  It wasn't a meeting but I got called to the back room a few times for wearing top hats and bolo ties and wearing a handlebar mustache. I got into a heated argument with them once (not proud of my demeanor in that instance) and I picked up my Bible and walked out. This was after being reinstated and them telling me not to be alone with the younger brothers my age because I could discourage them. Appearance was the big concern with my elders.