Simon: even as a believer that statement is true. As a non believer looking in it would seem like the person praying is always looking for the answer. And they can reason anything. As a believer even if you're not looking you could reason a coincidence as an answer. Could I have felt a huge dose of dopamine over a coincidence at the funeral? Absolutley. I just choose to feel otherwise because I want to believe its true. Wich strings into tons OH'S comment. If you believe hard enough because you've used prayer as a form of meditation, you'll reason its true when you find a source to an answer. But nicolaou, you make the most important point. Even if you're like me and you believe prayer works, its dangerous to put it into practice to preform medical miracles. Its irresponsible actually.
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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I've felt prayer work one time. It was just this last March (2022) my friend Steven, aka kool-aid, passed away. At the funeral the pastor didn't show up so we all just took turns telling our stories about him. I thought to myself that I'd say a quick prayer. So I prayed that if it was HIS will that I say something for the family to let it be done. Now I only knew kool-aid, his brother Jesse and his father, snooks. But one of the aunts I had never met came up to me not two minutes later and asked to to say the closing prayer for kool-aid and the family. At that moment I felt something inside me. It was like adrenaline but if adrenaline was on pot. It was a warm feeling that swept over me. And I can't explain it further than i feel like my prayer was actually answered. So to answer the question of what prayer does... if you're a believer, prayer does the will of the father. It doesn't answer you're every want and need. Prayer is ment to address the father, to honor him, to show that we have not a like mind of our forefathers, but actually depend on him and that we know that the lillies and the birds are taken care of, and so would we be if we did his will. I asked his will to be done over a specific circumstance. I didn't ask for myself to be helped or to be put in a spotlight.. And i believe that because of the nature of my request,, I was given an opportunity to honor his name and bring some comfort to a grieving family. So what does prayer do? Prayer honors the request of the one praying if it is in line with the will of the father, if it is not selfish but rather selfless, and gives you a weird slow adrenaline when its answered. Thats my experiance
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Hospitality for speaker
by road to nowhere inthere seem to be hospitality starting again.
fully vaccinated and assume masked.
neither a set in stone rule.
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Long haired gal: they act sad but its good and easy to see bad and fake acting. They made me jump hoops for almost 2 years. Got reinstated and then restricted me from everything except commenting. They once pulled me in the back room, pulled out my old service record from my pioneering years and said they want me to do that again, you know, to work for them for free. But they wanted me to do it without my god given face hair.
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First rule of book club: don't talk about book club
by Judgerussellford ini've never heard anyone else but ne say this but i've been saying it for years.
if you agree and have also been saying this for years, that is hilariously greater.
watchtower is just a cooperation that hides behind a religious title, that owns real-estate around the world, these buildings wich only have 1 purpose.
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Disillusioned jw: I'm trying to be a watchtower historian. Studying these old publications for a second part time career, not even to be a part of the cult and its still very tiresome haha. But yeah there's no need to print and print and print and print and ect. Unless you just want to make money. I don't even have half the watchtower collection thats been released since the founding and if you count books, booklets, kingdom ministries, convention reports, reprints of books, and individual magazines within the bound volumes, movies programs different bibles talk outlines and sermons from all the eras I have almost 2000 if not more peices of watchtower paraphernalia. AND IM STILL NOT DONE COLLECTING! That is way to much. Way... To... Much
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Hospitality for speaker
by road to nowhere inthere seem to be hospitality starting again.
fully vaccinated and assume masked.
neither a set in stone rule.
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Long hair gal: my wife pioneered for a few years and still wasn't spiritual enough so yeah we get that. When I got reinstated I wasn't allowed to go out because of my beard and got ridiculed for not going out in service. You want us out or not? So we chose for them and it was not
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The JW's greatest dogma...
by BoogerMan in....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.
rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.
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That the gb was selected by God and they claim to be the personal mouthpiece of God. If Kenneth Copeland multiple personalities and cronies were running a printing cooperation they'd be the gb for watchtower
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Question #2 for JW's
by BoogerMan inhow could the "two witnesses" mentioned in revelation chapter 11 possibly be j.f.
rutherford and his companions who got jailed and then released in 1919?.
w14 11/15 p. 30 - so in the fulfillment of revelation chapter 11, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of god’s kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.. watchtower november 15, 2014, p. 30 - revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'.. since the wild beast of rev.
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As regards your second question, the prophecy to me has always felt chronological. If you look at it that way. Watchtower was only chronological up through the rutherford days in what I've seen. But even at that they were only chronological for the 7000 creative day timeliness. Also thats only based on what I've seen. So besides all that they just interpret prophocey to fit their needs when they need some good new articles to write
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Question #2 for JW's
by BoogerMan inhow could the "two witnesses" mentioned in revelation chapter 11 possibly be j.f.
rutherford and his companions who got jailed and then released in 1919?.
w14 11/15 p. 30 - so in the fulfillment of revelation chapter 11, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of god’s kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.. watchtower november 15, 2014, p. 30 - revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'.. since the wild beast of rev.
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I don't know about rutherford and sons, but my buddy at work who follows Torah and I were talking about the two witnesses just a few days ago. We came to the conclusion that the two witnesses had to possibly be Moses and Elijah. Based solely on the transfiguration and no further research. We haven't had the time to look further into it.
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First rule of book club: don't talk about book club
by Judgerussellford ini've never heard anyone else but ne say this but i've been saying it for years.
if you agree and have also been saying this for years, that is hilariously greater.
watchtower is just a cooperation that hides behind a religious title, that owns real-estate around the world, these buildings wich only have 1 purpose.
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Since I keep my weed jar with it I call it my paraphernalia shelf lol. Glad you got to get out and retire. Hopefully dad can retire in just a few years. He got out a few years before me and has been doing great since
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Any connoisseurs of anything out there?
by Judgerussellford ini'm not a heavy drinker.
but in the last 8 years i've had over 200 different varieties of beer, liquor, and wine.
160 of those goes to beer.
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Happy dad: I've experienced that almost any local craft brewery has the best beer in the area you are at. Colorado has some of the best I've personally had. But if the Minnesota beer is anything like Wisconsin cheese then I gotta go try some! Still want to try brews from other countries.
Truth be known: I've only had a couple whiskeys i enjoy. I'm more of a rum guy myself. But I haven't had a properly aged whiskey/bourbon either. But ill tell you this, the best vodka I've ever had is Russian, and I'd like to have some true absinthe from Germany. Hear it tastes like black licorice