Idk about that. That may be just a personal decision. If it is good on your in-laws! My in-laws don't have an issue with us since we left but it was a silent fade and all they know is we n don't go to meetings anymore. One sibling and her husband know about my nicotine use but they had little to know problem with it. They just appriciated that I was honest. I think n its just being more common that they don't listen to the shunning rule with family as often. I know an elder who sees his df'd daughter regularly for "family business".
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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses softening their view of Faders?
by Darkknight757 inso my in-laws actually went out to dinner with us today.
normally, since leaving in 2016, they wouldn’t eat with us or talk much to me.
(since i did convince their daughter to leave the cult).
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Which Bible Translation.....
by BoogerMan in....is the best, in your opinion?.
out of the numerous translations i've had/used, i can honestly state that the 2001 translation is head & shoulders above all the others i've ever consulted, imo.
the publishers even invite suggestions/corrections to be submitted.
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Depends on what you want out of the scriptures. But every single one has dogma behind it. I use the nwt because I'm used to it. But I love using the Hebrew/Greek interlinier because they include a concordance.. great for original language research. You can get different apps for that. I prefer the hagio tech in the play store. My Torah buddy gave me a "the scriptures 2009", wich is in canonical order and pretty accurate on what I've read. The cepher is great too. Includes the apocrypha and other books not included in the regular 66. That ones rather pricy but worth it if you want more out of studies
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Any files on J. A. Bohnet?
by Judgerussellford inlooking into anything that some of the original watchtower pilgrims may have done.
like sermons and booklets and so on.
this week for me is bro bohnet.
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What I've sent is what I have in way of actual reading material, plus some things I've screenshot for interest and recreation template material. The rest I have is screenshots of front covers and spines of books and booklets id like to also recreate. I'm sorry again, Atlantis, for taking and not giving. That was very rude of me. I wish I had more to give you in way of files and such at the moment. But ill dig for things for you in the near future so i won't come across as selfish again
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Any files on J. A. Bohnet?
by Judgerussellford inlooking into anything that some of the original watchtower pilgrims may have done.
like sermons and booklets and so on.
this week for me is bro bohnet.
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Your right Atlantis. My apologies. I'll remind you tho as far as files I don't have much. But I have screenshots of things. I've tried uploading photos on here but they don't take well on this forum so I'll email them to you
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Any files on J. A. Bohnet?
by Judgerussellford inlooking into anything that some of the original watchtower pilgrims may have done.
like sermons and booklets and so on.
this week for me is bro bohnet.
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Looking into anything that some of the original watchtower pilgrims may have done. Like sermons and booklets and so on. This week for me is Bro Bohnet. Any files out there with his name on it?
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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Another thing is that we've been taught to rely on books and teachers instead of searching for ourselves. Bibles a nice guide to a believer, but we have to search for proof outside scripture also
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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Punk: i really do. I think as a consequence of bable, we have not only confused tongues and confused beliefs, as well as confused mindsets, as I hope nicolaou sees in my statements. Allah, is the same as the Jewish and Christian God (trinity aside). Buddha was actually a man that was Christian, many people don't know or refuse to believe that. I work with a roommate of a Buddhist that can confirm this. Just like an old junkie told me one time about vehicles, "there's good and bad in all of em, just 'pends on how ya take care of em" same with beliefs. People want to be separated by them instead. We all got something right, but a lot of things wrong. In any faith or even from those who chose not to have a faith. We can all learn so much from each other. I'm not talking about one world religion don't get me wrong. But the bickering is just nonsensical. "I'm right your wrong" blah blah blah. My mom told me when I was growing up that not all jws would make it through Armageddon, and that there would be many people of different faiths that I wouldn't think that would make it. And my first girlfriends aunt told me that life is about choices and consequences, you just have to make sure you chose the right path but own up to the consequences either way. And my 2rd roommates, both lesbians, told me once that they thought they would burn for being who they are. I showed them in scripture that they were better than most Christians I knew.
You know part of your dilemma is the same as my brothers in a way. To much music, nkt enough time for it all. Maaaaaaan if you could talk to him he could teach you a thing or two about music history and bands and so much more. He'd have his own record store if he knew what was good for him. But its the same with faiths. To many of them to spend your life learning them all to see whats right. So I just learn here and there from everyone I can to do as Roman's 12:2 says. Prove to yourself. Because they all have somethings right. Not everything. But somethings
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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I can see your views punkofnice. Its easier to get caught in beliefs over facts. As a believer thats a fine line to walk for me. Because facts do Trump beliefs as well as compliment them. Just because I believe something doesn't meen im right. I will never claim to be infallible. But we all believe a lot of things. Folks I work with believe in one politician over another. Yet I believe they are all just awful. In many instances that belief is split right down the middle. Bjt some beliefs seemingly taken on faith, are taken so because of promises and prophocey fulfilled. And even at that most only believers will believe that. Its quite a tumultuous circle really. But even scripture is not for private interpretation, and the Bible interprets itself. So in a sense when I say i choose to believe, I could be on some shakey ground for being a believer. At the same time I always try to remember Roman's 12:2. That we should "prove to ourselves". Of course using scripture as guidelines for the proving, along with history and solid fact, otherwise the proof is not on solid ground. I do though realize theres folks on here who don't believe. And I hope sharing my thoughts doesn't get misconstrued with preaching. We've all dealt with that enough as it is
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One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses
by nicolaou in.
this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.
disgusting.
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This is disgusting. With the kind of revenue watchtower makes they won't even help the people they preach right next to
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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I will also say this. Nobody ever born on this earth, was born wanting to be hated, disliked, or wanting to hate other people. Hate is such a cruel thing. The verse I cited in 2 Peter brings me back down when someone angers me, because even the ancient of days doesn't revel in the destruction of others, so why should I have a destructive hatred towards others. I try to teach this to people at work through my actions and words. Thats why I love the ex jw community and after a few years decided to join a forum like this. Because I've only met one malicious apostate in my life. All the others really care about the ones still in and hope for a safe exit from the corruption while they still have time, much like I see God's view on us in 2 Peter. Messiah said you are my deciples if you have love amongst yourselves. Theres a lot of love within communities like this one, that reach out with love for the ones still left behind. And nicolaous: if I see where you are going with this let me explain. After a few years, me and my brother raised ourselves. Its not just parents that raise children. It's teachers, it's people in churches and teacher/friends at school and strangers met over social media. Its whatever influences them to make a choice with a free thinking mind at any age. That five year old I mentioned before, back in the 89s or 9os, murdered a 3 year old cold blood because he could. Theres been teenagers murder their friends because they simply didn't want to be friends with them anymore, instead of taking the time to say, you know, "hey Debbie, listen were gonna stop being your friend because we just aren't clicking anymore". And there is many instances of atrocities that I won't comment due to the community guidelines that young people have committed at many different various ages.. its truly insane but thats just the kind of world we live in.. no age is left out for the opportunity to do bad things.. look at how young some kids are when they get caught up in gangs in the projects in bigger cities. I know grown men whove slung ice on the streets since they were ten because of what influenced them when they were that age.. its all about background and environment. I'm not placing blame on children necessarily, but at what point should the child start taking responsibility and listening to morals and to conscience?
Children to me is a broad spectrum because it goes from infant to almost any age.. in my experiance not far past someone's 30s. There are people like my brother-in-law who are in their 20s who are children because they still act like children. I'm nearly isolating instances where the children made thjer own free choices based on who was around to influence them without the ability to weigh thier morals properly. Every person around a child in thier days of being reared do in fact raise them in one way or another. Even who's on the TV and music. So when I say a child is only as innocent as the person raising them, with this above explanation, I hope this clears up any anger I may have raised in you, but I stand by my statement and still would never pray for anyone's destruction, let alone a child