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  Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

  i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

  did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

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  Thought this would fit here just nicely.

  About 20 years ago we learned first hand that an elder in my wife's previous congregation had his son who was DFd to BEAT UP his son in law who was not treating his daughter in law properly(can't remember this part exactly) Word of this got out and somehow got back to the CO and he came in and questioned those in the congregation including regular pioneers, story was denied by all and he gets off Scott free.

  Now even his "mob enforcer" son is in good standing along with the "DON"

  So yes I think this guy would certainly order stonings approved by god since he will order beatings when it is against god orders

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  Singing Listen, Obey & Be Blessed

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently attended the sunday meeting during the c.o.

  's visit.

  at the end of the final talk, he says the song will be 'listen, obey and be blessed'.

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  Mental control,..

  Now when the kids hear and or sing that song they will remember that day when "they got invited by the CO to come ON STAGE to sing this song and mommy and daddy were so proud of me, they were actually crying, I will never forget this for as long as I shall live on this side of the big A cause Jehovah will not let me remember seeing tears on that side"

  Creating strong memories to keep them loyl to the Borg.

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  Anyone Else See Les Miserables?

  by BizzyBee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to see it today - by myself (mr bee is on a golf junket).

  i was glad that that i was by myself because i cried so much at the end, i wouldn't have wanted to be with anyone who wasn't crying - and that would not have been mr bee!.

  les miserables the current film is adapted from what is considered one of the half-dozen greatest novels of the past 150 years and one of the longest novels ever written.

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  I just watched the 1935 original with Charles Laughton. I have always loved the one with Liam Neeson and don't ant to mess it up with a Musial one.

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  Especially for Cedars - My Cunning Plan. Or maybe not

  by not bitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  until the conti case came to light, i was not aware of the extent of child abuse going on in the org.

  and i was completely unaware of the jw policies on these matters.

  i read their offical policy on child abuse on jw.org and was gob smacked to say the least.

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  I think that you would have to go the route that Matthew McConaughey used in the last courtroom scene in the movie "A time to Kill" In the movie there are some white supremist white boys who rape, mutilate and leave for dead a pre teen black girl.

  The father of the young girl kills the 2 rapist and goes on trial for these murders.

  His defense attorney has to convince the jurors, all are white, not to convict him for killing his child's rapist and would be murderers.

  So in his closing arguments he has the jurors to close their eyes as he tells the gruesome story above, molestation etc, at the peak of this story he reel the jurors that the child in this tale is,........ White!!!

  It is only when the jurors envision that the little girl is white do they "snap" and open their eyes in shock and take the case to heart. (Spoiler alert, they come back with a Not guilty verdict)

  I feel you could somehow work it out where you tell your story with all the details including an alternate religion as you outlined above and put the twist in at the end of where you say "imagine if this was "X" " that had been molested.

  I think that you would have to put a "imagine" in there to keep the sanity in check.

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  Canadian radio station plans show re: new book re JW's being a cult

  by sosad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the talk show host had family that was jw - he is pretty non biased when i have heard him speak about the witnesses but straight shooting.

  he is sure to get some attention from some current jws if he raises this as a topic.

  the local producer has been unable to get any response from "the local chapter" of the organization.

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  I was all over that site and old not find a link to listen to the show.

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  Your all invited to Karter's 50th 16 feb in Auckland New Zealand.

  by karter in

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  2. friends

  pm me if you want to come.. .

  karter..

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  Moshe,.

  Your annual meet up, how do we find out more about it?

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  Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

  i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

  did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

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  Thanks Blondie,.

  When I read between the lines from that quote I see "We're chomping at the bit to kill us some apostates, if we were back in old times, the good ole days, I would be completely okay with killing me some apostates, family first of course"

  So with this one pargraph, the WTBTS has flipped a switch on in the JWs heads that gives them the thumbs up and permission to murder those that call them out for trying to enslave us into a cult.

  How screwed up is that?

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  Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

  i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

  did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

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  I think that there was as Watchtower article that said something to the effect of " Mans law prevents us from killing apostates today, even though they my be our own family"

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  BoE Facebook Accounts

  by jonno12225 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have some interesting info for you guys.

  it seems my congregation boe has its own facebook account.

  its deactivated but when issues on facebook arise they activate it to check out whats happeneing.. does something similar happen in other kingdom halls?.

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  What about a elders wife having a FB account? It would seem that this would fall under him not having control of his family.

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  Girlfriend probably getting DF'd

  by The JHWH in

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  2. friends

  so the local jc decided to df my girlfriend because of basically premarital sex.. she confessed few weeks back to the elders, and the judicial system had its wheels rolling.. they confronted her today, and eventually came to the conclusion described above.. .

  she told them that she regretted our sexual acts, and that we wouldn't perform that kind of actions before we're married.. they talked with her about getting married etc.

  a week before the jc.. now the reason they decided to df her was not the sexual acts itself, nor the lack of regret,.

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  This my your shot to get her to see that this is not gods organization.

  There is a article written in 1952 , I think, where the WTBTS slams the Catholic Church for ex-communicating its members and goes on to say that it is based on paganism and is unscriptural to do this.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php

  Check out half way down the heading "Are you also excommunicated ?" For more info on this if you think it will help her see the changes.

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